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Marks said:

Look, just calm down for a second and go re-read my original post. All I said is that religion CAN teach kids good values like not to steal, not to kill, etc. You're the one that brought up everything else like homophobia and violence. 

And like I said I'm not a religious guy anymore, but I was brought up religious, and I was told not to steal or I'd go to hell...and guess what? I've never stolen anything in my life. I've outgrown my religious beliefs but I haven't outgrown the morals I gained from it. And I'm not saying religion is the only reason I'm not a serial killer, I also have really good parents that raised me well, but having religion at a young age certainly didn't hurt. 

and like I've said from the beginning, you don't need religion to teach morals.  there's no need to get involved with all the "go to hell, god is watching, but ignore all these other rules" crap. it's irrational to assume that Religion is a good (or better) source of morals than common sense or law.  



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