Michael-5 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Michael-5 said:
I think Black Friday will be pro 360 because Black Friday is a US specific sales event, and in the US 360 typically outsells PS3 on a given week 2:1. It's less in the holidays, but 360 is always more favored, and if you look back at BF data, 360 always got a bigger boost (I think). you think to much. 2009 is the exception. my point was the Sony bundled games are newer so there more on the must have side, where as MS bundled games are not new so there not quite in demand. but GT5 tells a different story considering its up 50% each wk
FFXIII-2 doesn't release outside of Japan intil late January, so only Japans boost is relevant here, and it will be big. Guess PS3 at best, could match 360 this fall overall. hold on 1 minute! Jan 31 which is good and bad considering ME3: wait ME3 comes out March 16th so that means Sony pretty much has the first 2 months of 2012? holly f'n hell. Jan./Feb. has mostly always been good to Sony and with TW coming out on Feb14th and Soul Calibur5 coming out in Jan. right along with FF13-2. PS3 sells should be higher then they've ever been for those 2 months. or at the least keep Sony ahead in the new yr. fighting games still do better on PS platforms.
March has also been a good month to Sony, but other then Yakuza Dead Souls MS has March in the bag with software. lets see if that affects PS3 sells for the first time in 4 yr's i think.
I just have faith in Kinect. It's a stupid gimmick, but these gimmicks tend to push consoles. I think Nov/Dec numbers will be strong for MS due to Kinect, and If MS was smart they would make a cool Kinect bundle, not like the one they have now. i would say MS is not smart but they make billions a yr so that wouldn't make much sense. humm is this the same faith Seece is using? faith F'k faith. you'll need more then faith to covence me kinect will boost hardware! thats your weakest arguement yet and i can't say you've had many if any. but faith other then maybe religion is nothing more then blind. are you telling me your driving a train with no breaks blindfolded about to derail on to the streets running through schools, chuches and what ever else you can run through while driving a runaway train while blind cause you forgot your glasses at home but there right infont of you on the runaway speeding train but you can't see them cause your blind whether you put them on or not?
faith! you better come up with something better then that fast!
hell i don't have faith any of this will happenning. i look at whats out and whats coming out then i look and trends for yrs past and whts going on now, and with BF3 boosting PS3 hardware ww dispite higher preoders and sells ww on 360, and PS3 sells mainly in the EMEAA then i have no idea other then the past 4 or 5 yr's why a repeat of that most recent event of last wk won't happen when MW3 comes out. it can happen. it likely will happen. but we've already proven history doesn't always repeat itself or have you for gotten?
again when you when you quote this you better have something better then faith.
PS3 bundles have newer games, yea, but it's not like Uncharted 3 will push that many more new gamers to buy a PS3 is Uncharted 2 did. It will obviously still push some, but many limited edition console buyers will buy the console out of sheer fanboyism. They did this for Halo and Gears in the past as well. meh. whatever happens it will be signifigant considering one factor and thats it has higher preorders then UC2, and did GEARS3 v GEARS2. srry but like GEARS although the bigger of the 2 UC3 will have a huge impact on PS3 hardware sells.
well it should anyway when you look at everything except R3.
With the 360 multi-game bundles, new gamers get a deal, and get 1 game from each major exclusive franchise, or from most of them. That I would imagine, would appeal to new console buyers more, and as they beat those older games, then they will get the newer versions used. They are clearly in no rush if they have no console yet. yep and as with PS3 bundles. why are we arguing this mute point? its not even an argument. its more like stateting the obvious. both consoles have relatively new games so for new buyers there even.
Console colours never come outside of Japan anymore. It's a shame because I really liked the N64 colours, and I waited to get my Wii in a special ed colour (got red). I think the White PS3 boosted sales in Japan in 2010 by 30k in mid summer for a week, so multi colours could boost PS3 sales by 50-100k during the fall, which seems exactly like that Halo: CEA will do. well lets see. 4 consoles. at 50k per console equal's 200k. or 400k. those are your numbers not mine? besides those consoles will stay on retail shelves so the boost won't stop thre. yea it is sad. hell we got multicolor controlers why not consoles?
I don;t get your comment about my history... your crazy. i wasn't talking about your history. it was a typo/miss print. look at the post below.
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here re-read the post with the changes. the word change will be underlined in blod
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COD! seriously? did we not just learn a valuable lesson by underestimating BD3's impact on PS3 sells? never the less i'm not blind deff and dumb cause we have history and it can repeat its self. on the other hand the 360 version of BF3 still sold better on 360 in the Americas and 360 still got thrashed on the hardware side so lets not give to much credit to 360 and favor it as the winner but its likely to be that way.
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the most significant part of that post was history can repeat its self.
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I don't wanna spend anymore time on VGC...trying to cut back....wah... yea i'm not here all day. i'm on WWE.COM
People who buy consoles now, don't have any "must have" titles. They buy a 360 for Halo, and PS3 for Uncharted, and it's likely they will want to start their consoles life with the older games. 5 cheap games bundled in the console will likely entice new console buyers more then the newest version of 1 or two of those franchises. meh not to sure about that
Sony will have a good January/February, MS will likely break even for March, then who knows. yea
For faith. I feel Kinect will push sales in Novemeber/December because it's a casual add on, and like Wii Fit and the Wii, sales tend to jump in November/December. well i can except feel but i don't like that either. i feel nothing concerning this areguement. its all bout what i see. the proof. the facts vidence to support the claim. for every argument theres a counter until you both agree or say we arn't going to agree and agree to drop it, but thats not an issue for us. we've agreed allot more then most would think as a core 360fand PS3, PC fan would normaly. i also saw your arguing about black friday, but looking at the numbers other then 09 your right but wht makes it a pointless argument is that 360 only outsold PS3 by 1m on 1 of those friday's and that was in 07. when you can cut a gap from 1m to a few 100k then you've done something.
50-100k was for all 4 consoles. The White PS3 of the mid summer also came with a hard drive boost, and November isn't the Japanese holiday season like it is elsewhere. Also many people interested in a coloured PS3, may have gotten a coloured PS3 in a previous limited edition coloured release, so adding colours now should be less dramatic. not sure about that. i'm sure its never the same colours.
History can repeat itself. Every time CoD launches, 360 gets better sales, again, except for 2009, and 2007 because CoD wasn't big then.
now i flip the same coin i did in our last discution about this. history doesn't have to or always repeat its self. BF3 was a sure shot at majorly boosting 360 hardware more then PS3's, but we both saw what happened and got egged for it. and it always sell better on 360, but PS3 got the bigger boost this time.
i'm not doubting 360 will have a more significant boost then PS3 but over time COD on PS3 has become a more recognisable brand. take a look at the sells chartz for last wk and the ones that are up now. the only version of COD you see in the top 50 is the PS3 version, and its up wk over wk significantly. again i look at whats infront of me. average it out by what i know about it. and the come to a conclusion. and that conculsion with a rapedly closing gap. i'm not talking about the hardware gap. i'm talking about the softeware. the gape use to be about 6m i think in favor of 360 when concerning cod. but like everything else that gap continues to close and with both the console and software gap being less then 3m how can you think the 360 will outright have this boost over the PS3 version.
your using sound logic but you not taking everything and accounting for it. i guess that my job? if this was 07-08-10 then we wouldn't even be discussing this. but this is 2011 and most of all the software released multiplatform in the past is showing better legs on PS3.
if you tell me those leg don't mean sells when MW3 releases then you'd only be half right.
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