So, I've read most of this thread and I think there is only one item I fully disagree with and think even sales numbers prove it wrong.
Super Mario World.
1) SMB2 was not a "real" mario bros game. Anyone can see that fairly easily as its just a different game in its core with tacked on mod.
2) Handheld and consoles games have different situations and should be just separated. So yes, SMLand games are their own different series of mario games. Typically, they are rehashes of console variations limited by their hardware.
3) 3D Mario game are exactly what rol defined them as.. spin-offs of SMB games. They are great games however, and are unique in all of gaming in that this spin-off was very well received, but still a different game in its core.
4) SMB, SM3, and NSMBWii are definitely along the same core game with enhancements and solid progression in game play and core elements.
However, SMW is a solid Super Maro Bros game in every way.
Can you cheat at times and skip stuff? Yes, but you can do this any ANY mario game.
Are their cheap/easy enemies at certain parts that are easily bypassed? Yes, but you can find this in ANY mario game.
Can you beat the game in one life due to memorization? Yes, but you can do this in ANY mario game.
Did it add to the Mario legacy items that are found some fashion in following games? Yes. There are items/characters in NSMBWii that were introduced in SMW.
Does it have items/characters/elements to gameplay found in previous mario games? Yes, definitely.
Fact is, you can't discount it simply because a sequel, supposedly, to it was not a mario game. Otherwise you couldn't count SMB as SMB2 was either a mod or an entirely different game depending on your region.
To me, there are four "Main Series" mario games and hopefully the 5th will be introduced with WiiU's launch. Hopefully, similar to its predecessors it will introduce new elements in gameplay, platforming, and controls that will continue to propel Mario's legacy and domination of an entire genre... no wait, and entire industry (as rol's post a few pages back demonstrates)







