When will the 4th REAL Mario game release? UPDATED!!!!

[lestatdark]

RolStoppable said:

lestatdark said:

False. While there are some fans that fit that mold, I don't believe every poke fan does, especially me. I believe the Stadium games to be as much real pokemon games as the handheld ones, even if their core gameplay is entirely different. It's based on the same concept and it gives the same playability as the combat portion of the handheld games and that to me is enough for them to be true pokegames. The Colisseum ones can also fit the mold in the collection department, while giving a slightly gimped version of the combat playability, yet they're still enjoyable. 

Heck, even Pokemon Snap is one hell of a pokemon game, one of my favourite in the entire pokemon legacy.

Granted, but I still don't think that a lot of people would bring the torches and pitchforks like they did in this thread, because the idea of a real Pokémon game being one that embeds combat and collection into an adventure (among other things that make Pokémon Pokémon) is easily conveyed.

Or we just call those the main series Pokémon games. I don't think you would object to that. However, many Mario fans don't like the idea that 3D Mario games are actually spinoffs.

Oh I don't object to the notion of the 3D Mario games being considered spin-offs, and I don't think you'll find many on this thread debating that. What's really irking people and what's really selfish from Pyro's part is calling the 2D Nes mario games the only "real" Mario games, and giving each other Mario game as a "unworthy" connoctation and every Mario fan that doesn't see his way as being less of a Mario fan than him. 

People can see the 3D Marios as they see fit, but they aren't less of more of a Mario game than the 2D ones, in worthiness. What Pyro fails to see and respect is the fact that Mario games appeal differently to every set of fans, thus there not being a "true" Mario style of games. You can say that the 2D Nes ones started it all and are the most pure form of Mario games, but every iteration from there added things that appealed more or less to some fans and brought more people to the series. 

Mario, as a whole legacy, shouldn't have a segregation of what is a "true" fan or what is a "true" game. It doesn't work like that for a series so vast and with so many fans behind it. Khuutra said it best in his post, the entitlement of the Retrocore-ism on Pyro's part is the really problem driving his thread (and pretty much every other thread he has created lately).