When will the 4th REAL Mario game release? UPDATED!!!!

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RolStoppable said:

It's easy to see that many people are offended by this thread and there are big disagreements on what a real Mario game is, although it shouldn't be that big of a deal. But yet it is and I have an idea why.

If we were to talk about Pokémon and someone declared Red/Blue/Silver/Gold etc. (you know which games I mean) the only real Pokémon games, there would be most likely not much of a problem. Likewise, if someone said that they want a real Pokémon game on a home console, there wouldn't be an upset either.

But when it comes to Mario, it causes huge drama. That's probably because the quality of Mario spinoffs is so exceptional that it doesn't trail behind the main games which are the Super Mario Bros. games. So calling Super Mario 64 and its sequels not real Mario games can be taken as offense, even if it isn't meant to be (although admittedly in this thread's case it was meant to cause a reaction, to what degree though is open for debate).

The Mario brand has managed what no other brand could: It not only defined one genre, but several and it continues to push the boundaries of these genres and remains the top dog. Nothing else has been as dominant and longlasting in this industry.

Super Mario 64 isn't a real Mario game, it only marks the start of a spinoff series, just like Super Mario Kart did. But Super Mario 64 and its sequels are the real, the definitive, 3D platformers.

For this thread's sake, you could replace "real" with "main series", but even then there would be people throwing a fit, because they count the 3D spinoff series towards the total. Spinoff, not the real games, those are terms that people automatically associate with a negative context, because that is the case with just about every brand in existence. Mario is an exception though.

False. While there are some fans that fit that mold, I don't believe every poke fan does, especially me. I believe the Stadium games to be as much real pokemon games as the handheld ones, even if their core gameplay is entirely different. It's based on the same concept and it gives the same playability as the combat portion of the handheld games and that to me is enough for them to be true pokegames. The Colisseum ones can also fit the mold in the collection department, while giving a slightly gimped version of the combat playability, yet they're still enjoyable. 

Heck, even Pokemon Snap is one hell of a pokemon game, one of my favourite in the entire pokemon legacy.