Porcupine_I on 26 October 2011
Dr.Grass said:
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Get ethomaz and aldro in here.
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reality is overrated
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Reality is all there is. Self-delusion will only end in misery.
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no it doesn't ! not if i die before i get disaffected!
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Death is the ultimate source of suffering. One which none can escape. At that moment everything you've (consciously) ever known is stripped away from you and (for most people) it's the first encounter with true fear.
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yeah, but it's the same if i had faced reality, at least i die with living a happy life of self delusion, and i can still die without warning 
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No. The mentality of being 'blissfully ignorant' will serve no man at the time of death. It will merely serve as a reminder that one's whole life was spent chasing shadows and one now has to enter the dark without any knowledge of what lay ahead.
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that is strange though, as i believe that only the self delusional claim to know what lies ahead. i think we just came full circle here.
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This is not true for anything within our experience so why should it be true for anything else?
What you are in fact doing is putting an absolute measure on your fund of knowledge. You do this despite knowing that one's own fund of knowledge is most certainly a relative phenomena.
In other words, you are denying the possibility of something you know nothing about. A simple study of the history of man shows that this is not the pathway of progress.
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see? and that is where you are wrong, i am not denying anything, i simply accept that i have no way to know what lies ahead. and claiming i do would be self delusional. that is reality for you, the very thing you promoted in this thread.
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You don't accept the possibility of something I do. That is the real difference between us and no matter how much we argue that point will remain unchanged. You should be careful of saying I'm wrong - I've tried to not make any radical statements except for disagreeing with you. I will do that again:
'' i simply accept that i have no way to know what lies ahead''
Just because you accept something as impossible doesn't make it so.
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i am not making any radical statements, actually it's you who putting my words out of context and that is where the problem lies. i am not accepting anything as impossible, it is you who think i do, and that is where i have to correct you.
it may very well be that you out of all times out of all people have found a way to know what lies ahead, but so claim millions of other people. i simply have no way to verify any of these claims.
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we have reached an impass.
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indeed you did
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
