Do humans have free will?

[Slimebeast]

Dr.Grass said:

Slimebeast said:

Dr.Grass said:

I see what you mean, but its wrong. These fundamental interactions have (supposedly) shaped our entire universe. How can the world be deterministic if it would've been completely different without this randomness?

It could be randomness within limits.

Like the Butterfly effect. Some people think that if a butterfly flaps his wings in America it could cause a tornado on the other side of the world. But most likely a tornado would require millions of butterfly flaps to occur in a very short time span in a limited area, and that's unlikely to happen.

''It could be randomness within limits.''

I don't know what to make of this 'statement' honestly.

''But most likely a tornado would require millions of butterfly flaps to occur in a very short time span in a limited area, and that's unlikely to happen.''

I think you've misunderstood the purpose behind the 'butterfly effect' tale that gets told so often. The point is that a small effect can propagate and eventually be the cause of something of a much grander scale. You can show with a pc and some nifty coding that a butterfly can in fact cause a tornado on the other side of the world - point being the tornado wouldn't have occurred at all if the butterfly didn't flap its wings.

Now the point of the story shouldn't be interpreted too literally, because the odds of a butterfly causing a tornado are approacing zero. 

No that's a myth and there's no example from real life that proves the Butterfly effect. A very small event can't cause gigantic events. It takes a fairly big event to cause a gigantic effect.