Nintendo may never be on top again

[radishhead]

Jumpin said:

radishhead said:

But there was always respect for who Nintendo were and what they'd done for the insustry - nowdays, Nintendo = Casual, and there's nothing Nintendo can do to change that now. 

There isn't any proof because it hasn't happened yet - I'm suggesting that WiiU is going to suffer greatly because they're aiming to please a market that doesn't care for Nintendo any more. If they lose the family market for phones/tablets, and lose the "hardcore" gamers to the competition; who have they got left?

I find statements like this one kind of funny, mostly because I think most people don't really use the term "casual gamer" negatively except for nerds on messageboards; in fact, most people don't know what the term "casual gamer" even means. You're not going to impress anyone in real life by declaring "I'm a hardcore gamer!", in fact most people will probably look at you like you have a mental illness.

I think most people see things the opposite of you, the Wii is either the first Nintendo home console they ever owned, or the first since the SNES/NES that they owned.

Gamecube was largely seen as a console that catered only to children, and personally, I didn't know anyone except children who owned a Gamecube. I am not saying that there weren't games that appealed to adult audiences too, it is just that the wide perception was that Gamecube and Nintendo home consoles were for kids only. That perception only evaporated when the Wii came out. 

It's not my comment that Nintendo is casual- I'm talking about the self-proclaimed  "hardcore" gamers who refuse to buy Nintendo products because they don't want to be associated with the "casual" label - which funnily enough is only thrown around by people similar to them. I'm suggesting that this group of self-proclaimed "hardcore" gamers is growing rapidly through the popularity of games such as CoD. Whereas Nintendo may have easily managed to gain the younger age market before, they may not be able to do so in the future because the popularity of these M rated games is spreading younger.