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Tridrakious said:
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pezus said:
What excuse did he have for the PC version? Surely not tight memory...

no no no that shit doesn't count here.....just typical behavior from the 360 community, carry on

You know what typical behavior there is in this thread? PS3 fans being butthurt that some developer raises legitimate critizisms about their platform. What he said is 100% correct, and those exact points are extremely important to RAGE, because of its technology.

It's not id that don't know their stuff, it's the PS3 that can't keep up.

It's not that the PS3 cannot keep up. Gamers still get the Rage experience on the PS3 and on one disc. The problem is that games need to be made specifically for the PS3 for them to truly shine. We've known for the past five years.

Not with the way RAGE works. I gave a short explanation in my last post to you, I'll gladly expand on it if you want to know more.

Thats perfectly fine. let me know more, but the real issue of backlash is coming from the PC gamers, not the console gamers. Carmack is getting backhanded by all of them for not making the game up to par and now Carmack has stated that the consoles don't run with not even 1/10 of a PC's power. He's blaming the PS3 for his troubles when the PS3 owners are not the ones who are complaining. He's also stated that PC is no longer the lead platform and games are made in mind where the larger paying audience is. This is fine....but its not like they wont rip his game for fun out of spite.

That is what threw me with these statements from John Carmack. I haven't heard people complaining that the PS3 was having issues running the game, so to hear Carmack throw the PS3 under the bus (after praising the platform before the release [another odd thing as well]).

My personal taste in gaming has not been effected by the release of RAGE. I don't have interest in it whatsoever. Something that pisses me off is when people just make damn blanket statements. I never thought I would actually agree with STAGE is shocking...how things change.

Carmack didn't throw the PS3 under the bus he replied to a question about whether it was possible to make RAGE on PS3 better. He replied with the truth the PS3 is held back by limited RAM and poor IO performance are the issues and there is no real way arround these as they are hard limits and the assets are already compressed as much as possible. These are not opnions these are well documented facts and no matter how powerful on paper the CELL is it can't make Blu-Ray faster, allow a full install or reduce the size of the source textures without a negative impact on the graphics. 

It's not like he hasn't criticised other platforms he has been vocal about DVD and lack of a standard HDD hurts the game on 360 and that PC is hamstrung by API overheads and a wide veriaty of hardware configurations. It's not like he is singling out any platform. He complements and has complaints about all platforms, yet only his PS3 complaints generate a backlash this big...



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