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scat398 said:

@richardhutnik.  I understand your points, despite the uneeded exagerations and I am also familiar with the current public assistance system (not in New York mind you, but in California, although they are similar).  Just to get this out of the way right now, if you think for one minute that the requirements by the state to receive benefits are anything but a bunch of rubberstamping  and one big giant circle jerk we are not going to find common ground.  Our current system is designed to have you jump through just the right number of hoops to keep uncle sam sending you a check and nothing more, it's a lesson in CYA to the ultimate extreme. 

But my point was that these individuals are not stupid, they know what they are doing and are making a concious choice to not work for minimum wage or slighlty better because they can and do receive more from the goverenment to stay home.  We can talk all day long about the lady with five kids that can't work because she can't afford daycare but the truth is she shouldn't have five kids, she shouldn't have any kids, but you can't say that can you?

The truth is people need to go back to work at reduced wages.  These wages overtime will reduce prices and will lower the burden on the federal government. But you have to decide if that is what you really want.  We both know the circe gets smaller as the number of unemployed increases.  More people on federal assistance, less taxes come in, less demand for goods, more unemployed, more people on federal assistance...raise taxes...and so on, we both know it doesn't end well. 

 

We've addressed this issue of "they shouldn't have the kids" before, and that leads to one of three options:

1) Mandatory sterilization and/or abortions for those who are unfit to raise children

2) Leave them to understand the consequences of their actions (e.g. let the kids suffer from malnutrition et al)

3) Make the children wards of the state (damaging for the children psychologically and still costing the state money)

One of those cases where you have to pick your poison wisely



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