Xbox 360 Vs. Playstation 3 2012 - *February* Update

[Michael-5]

MARCUSDJACKSON said:

Michael-5 said:

2012 was a typo, sorry. I meant 2014. I don't think MS will discontinue 360 in 2014. well it is an interesting proposition. it just doesn't seem like they'll focus on it when they'll want XB99ZX300 to be the focus of 3rd party Pubs.

New upcoming Wii's are not backward compatible. Look up the Wii Family Bundle, that's the first one not to be BC, and I heard all Wii's then on will not be BC. This sucks because there will not be gamecube controller ports, but to be fair, most people buying a Wii this late into it's life are unlikely to want any gamecube games. they don't even sell them anymore.

ok i miss understood wht you were saying. wow that is something isn't it. its not an epicfail because Ninty is done with Wii. it will be damn near dead nwxt yr. Ninty know's how to kill a console better then Sony don't they!

For PS3, no it's the delay. Lots of developing countries don't get video game consoles and products until years after the developed world. If PS3 was introduced to these areas in 2010, a 4 year delay, PS4 won't likely be released any earlier. yea i see that. its also a cost thing. you'd have to be rich in developing markets to get a PS3 at launch.

Also it doesn't matter how Sony treats their PS3 post life. If there is no demand like there is for a PS2, they will discontinue it just as fast as MS discontinues the 360. well there sertantly is a possibililty, but like i said, because Sony will keep it on the market and third party will continue to support it. PS3 will not see an end for some time. doesn't support equal sells?

I support JRPG's on MS because it garentees localization, and I'm really happy MS has made so many deals with JRPG devs. NOA could learn a lot from them. couldn't agree more if you broke my ankle.

For the end, I wasn't saying a story, just making a point. Sales of individual consoles will always be interesting. Take Min the Gap for instance. Now that PS3/360 sales in each region have stabilized, they are no longer interesting. However PS3 is selling better then Wii in EMEAA and 360 is doing the same in Americas, and soon a 3DS vs. PSV graph will come up. Always something interesting, so no point overanalyzing stuff now. Just enjoy what you got, and pay attention to trends. 

i know that! i make the stories lol. yea i'll enjoy what i got but i won't be paying any attention to hey a bunny? aw look at the fury bunny an't it cute?

awe man now were was i? o yea trends. 360 has proven in its 6th yr that trends mean nothing. maybe PS3 will sell more next yr everywhere because its the PS3's 6th yr. expect a pick up in sells in EMEAA.

see wht i did there. look i'll take the same approach i took this yr. post a bogus prediction. get everybody in each camps pants on fire while they wet there draws becuase i'm 2m off or ahead of what they think. make revisions and be right by the end of the yr.

see i piss everybodies magic off just to be right lol. Seece doesn't know its on purpose. he just thinks it happens cuase i've lost it, or simply don't have it.

Yea, but MS did support the X-Box 1 until it died due to low demand. They never killed it, and they supported XBL for 4 years on XB1 after the system was discontinued. Ontop of that 360 is the only system to have BC to last gen. There is no signs that MS will just drop the 360 and discontinue it when the next gen comes out. MS will likely follow suite with Sony, they only difference I see possible is I think Sony is more likely to release a game on PS3 after the release of PS4, where MS likely won't outside of a Kinect exclusive.

Like you said "Sony will keep it (the PS3) on the market and third parties will continue to support it." With the extreme overlap of third party games, and the generalization that third party games sell better on 360 then PS3 (only counter examples I can thing of are FIFA, RE5, and some NFS's), it's likely 360 will continue to sell as long as PS3. Neither MS or Sony will discontinue the system if it's still selling. Neither have in the past, and there is no signs that one will discontinue a product before the other.

360 having a peak year after 5 years does mean trends are important. Before the 6th gen, the only system to not peak in 2 years were low volume Sega consoles, and the GBA. DS peaked in 4 years, PS3 and Wii in 3, and overall this is showing that generations are longer now then they were before. Sony stated that they wanted PS3 to be around for 10 years, and it's happening. Trends are crutial to making smart gaming decisions.

That joke prediction you made had 1 critical flaw. It lacks intelectual backing. You can't hopelessly rely on trends, but you should still look at them and try to understand why they happened and what they mean. Yes 360 peaked in 5 years, but it also released earliest. PS3 had a very strong 4th year, despite a 3rd year peak. If Sony released the Slim PS3 in 2010 instead of 2009, I bet you 2010 would have been PS3's peak.

An example of a good trend is, 360 sells more during the holidays. There is intelectual backing here. First of all 360 does typically gain most of it's sales in Q4 (more percentage-wise of it's total then any other console). Second, Kinect is a casual peripheral, and like Wii Fit and Just Dance, it will sell a lot better during the holidays. We can't predict is too easily since this is only the second year of Kinect, but we know it will do well. 3rd is Seeces arguement, most hardware does sell a lot better in it's second year then it's first, and many people consider Kinect almost it's own system.

Seece made some good points, I disagree in the end, but we need some MS support on this site. So many articles on VGC that say "PS3 will dominate the World because" and less people object to those. People just need to accept others opinions.