Poll: Israel or Palestine?

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kopstudent89 said:

Player1x3 said:

They brought those conflicts on their own. In almost all wars between christians and muslims, muslims were always the ones to strike first. Christians were almost always defending or recapturing lands

Umm.. What about the crusaiders? 

This is one of those instances where the two sides have a wildly different perspective on it. Just like Al-Andalus represents a golden age of tolerance and progress to Muslims, for the Christians it was an unbearable incursion and occupation of their land. Similarly, the Muslims see the Crusades as a series of unprovoked aggressions, while the Christians figure that they were just trying to take back what was originally theirs. Not to say that the Crusades were completely right or just or particularly "holy" given the behavior of the crusaders, but surely the Christians could hardly seek to restore their control over the Holy Land if the Muslims hadn't invaded it to begin with?