oniyide said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
oniyide said:
I respect your outlook, but in this case i see it as the glass half empty. Im not saying my outlook is the end all be all. I just see it as people accepting the absoulute bare minimum, if thats what people want, thats damn ok with me. Im not saying dont make games, those games fund the games I actually want to play. Everyone wins.
The PS3 is not the place people expect fun party games, just like people arent expecting the Wii to have wall to wall shooters. Sony can advertise Everybody Dance till the cows come home, who in there right mind is going to spend 400 on a PS3 and MOve to play a game that they can either a) play something similar on the WIi they have or b) get a Wii that is half the price?? This kind of software has not been backed on this console, you really believe Sony will turn it around this late in the game?? Id be shocked if they sell half a mil lifetime
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They don't have to spend that much money. The PS3 is 249 and only going down in price(I wouldn't be surprised to see more 100 gift cards for all consoles this season). Move bundles are 79.99. The price of both will only go down over time.
The PS2 wasn't known as a party game console and that didn't stop games like Singstar and Buzz as well as other eyetoy games from appearing and doing rather well for themselves(EyeToy mostly doing well in the Euro though pretty meh in America plus many SingStar games never even made it outside of Europe) towards the end of the generation(The first release of Singstar was in 2004 only).
Depending on thier focus next gen(The only things we have heard publicly stated imply it may be pretty casual and maybe female focused) it wouldn't be a bad idea to start targeting that demographic now. I know the Wii is the console upon which this material is expected(I alluded to in my original post so you can't say I don't know that or why that is as I explain both which I can only assume you still haven't read) but Sony will never get there by not releasing these types of games and supporting them. It's especially helpful that just about no one is supporting the Wii anymore including Nintendo. Next year when Wii U is out and no one is supporting the Wii they can compete quite well and have a small base of enthusiasts from which to grow.
Singstar still manages to do well on PS3 when they release the games in more than one region or dare to even let people know about them(I'm a fan of the series and don't know about many of the PS3 editions that I'm seeing in the sales totals). That is a party game period and still manages to do well despite the far less casual userbase. The model that they are using which allows you to buy songs from the SingStore also means that even with low sales they are still probably rather profitable. Hell SingStar Dance may hit a half million this holiday it's not too far off as is. This is in no way a bad thing for Sony to pursue.
Just to be on topic JD 3 will wipe the floor with Everybody Dance. The tracklist is more than enough evidence as well as support and advertising for the series. If they use the online store model as they have been doing with SingStar I still think it will be a good and profitable venture for Sony even if it doesn't really compete with a larger, better supported and well known franchise.
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THe problem with your statement is that the PS2 had NO competition at all in that department. Was there Singstar like games for GC and Xbox?? People who wanted that had no choice but to deal with Sony. Present day, you are ignoring the 500 pound gorilla called Wii. 250+80=330 thats more than twice the price of a Wii, now lets be real here. If your interested in this type of game and just this type of game, what are you gonna buy?? Just because no one is going to support the Wii, does not mean it will stop selling. There is very little Sony can do now, they will keep making dance games for WIi, I garauntee that. THe Wii is flooded with these types of games. PS3 will never catch up in that dept. Now what Sony does next gen, is up in the air.
As for JD3, i would not be surprised if the game is just outright cancelled for PS3, it was supposed to be released tommorrow along with the rest but Amazon has it released Dec 31, thats not even a real date. No need for it to be delayed on PS3 unless they were playing on cancelling
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Kareoke Revolution appeared on the Xbox and Gamecube the games were about equally recieved by critics. Same price or generally cheaper consoles with with better graphics. There was competition. It wasn't successful but there was. PS2 did not exist in a vacuum.
I'm not ignoring the Wii. It has been mentioned plenty of times in all of my posts on the subject. If they want some dance games, trivia games, karaoke games as well the occasional FPS or the occasional strange J game they may. Party games haven't done so horrible on PS3 that we can say there is NO market for them. I think markets have momentum and can get larger if catered to appropriately or decline when not. Its about exciting customes. So far the Wii has done it better but I think that this a very healthy opportunity that Sony needs practice with in catering the casual market.
Lack of software on the shelves for it will. That's where retailers make money. That's why they sell the consoles. Wii Sports and Wii Fit are easily arguably the best reasons to own the console. They are often bundled with it. Retailers need more games to sell. Beyond Ubisoft I don't see any support and they are moving to Wii-U and 3DS retailers will move on swiftly unless those consoles completely fail. Nintendo consoles don't tend to sell in emerging markets firsthand forever giving them smaller tails than Playstation systems.
Even more room for ED I suppose. Though at Game Stop it has a tuesday date of 12/6 with a preorder bonus of some sort. Maybe move support issues delayed?
