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oniyide said:

I respect your outlook, but in this case i see it as the glass half empty. Im not saying my outlook is the end all be all. I just see it as people accepting the absoulute bare minimum, if thats what people want, thats damn ok with me. Im not saying dont make games, those games fund the games I actually want to play. Everyone wins.

The PS3 is not the place people expect fun party games, just like people arent expecting the Wii to have wall to wall shooters. Sony can advertise Everybody Dance till the cows come home, who in there right mind is going to spend 400 on a PS3 and MOve to play a game that they can either a) play something similar on the WIi they have or b) get a Wii that is half the price?? This kind of software has not been backed on this console, you really believe Sony will turn it around this late in the game?? Id be shocked if they sell half a mil lifetime


They don't have to spend that much money.  The PS3 is 249 and only going down in price(I wouldn't be surprised to see more 100 gift cards for all consoles this season).  Move bundles are 79.99.  The price of both will only go down over time.  

The PS2 wasn't known as a party game console and that didn't stop games like Singstar and Buzz as well as other eyetoy games from appearing and doing rather well for themselves(EyeToy mostly doing well in the Euro though pretty meh in America plus many SingStar games never even made it outside of Europe) towards the end of the generation(The first release of Singstar was in 2004 only).  

Depending on thier focus next gen(The only things we have heard publicly stated imply it may be pretty casual and maybe female focused) it wouldn't be a bad idea to start targeting that demographic now.  I know the Wii is the console upon which this material is expected(I alluded to in my original post so you can't say I don't know that or why that is as I explain both which I can only assume you still haven't read) but Sony will never get there by not releasing these types of games and supporting them.  It's especially helpful that just about no one is supporting the Wii anymore including Nintendo. Next year when Wii U is out and no one is supporting the Wii they can compete quite well and have a small base of enthusiasts from which to grow.

Singstar still manages to do well on PS3 when they release the games in more than one region or dare to even let people know about them(I'm a fan of the series and don't know about many of the PS3 editions that I'm seeing in the sales totals). That is a party game period and still manages to do well despite the far less casual userbase.  The  model that they are using which allows you to buy songs from the SingStore also means that even with low sales they are still probably rather profitable. Hell SingStar Dance may hit a half million this holiday it's not too far off as is.  This is in no way a bad thing for Sony to pursue.  

Just to be on topic JD 3 will wipe the floor with Everybody Dance. The tracklist is more than enough evidence as well as support and advertising for the series.  If they use the online store model as they have been doing with SingStar I still think it will be a good and profitable venture for Sony even if it doesn't really compete with a larger, better supported and well known franchise.