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lestatdark said:
Mepeteatu said:
lestatdark said:
Charmander rules at the top of the starter mountain.

+ Evolves into Charizard
+ 1st Gen
+ Can learn Outrage, Flare Blitz and has enough variance on it's movepool to dwarf the uselfuness of other starter pokemon
+ It looks like a frigging Dragon, and we all know Dragons rule
- It has a 4* weakness to Rock.

Man reason why Charizard is so "meh" competatively speaking.  Stealth Rocks on the field?  1 dead charizard.....

Not entirely correct. Yeah it cuts Charizard HP to 50% when it switches in, but a 50% HP cut is only viable if the opponent can take advantage of it. My Soul Silver Charizard was a fearsome foe, even with Stealth Rock in place, since he had maximum IV's for Speed and Attack and was EV trained for both stats. Coupled with his moveset, he was able to dish a lot of OHKO's even at 50% HP. 


I didn't say that doesn't happen. ;p  I've seen Charizard in OU and it can do a nice job of sweeping if it's teammates can nget rid of all his threats.

He is just outclassed by other fire poke's.  He hasn't been in anything above BL/RU since Red and Blue.