Can a government kill one of it's citizens overseas without a trial?

[Joelcool7]

Kasz216 said:

Joelcool7 said:

Why should a man get a trial just because he's American?

Because the United States wss the one who killed him... and citizens should have certain rights that can't be voided without a trial.  Not the least of which being the government not killing you.

Your off base if Canada would of killed him, I wouldn't care.

If Canada would of killed a terrorist who was a Canadian citizen without a trial, then I'd have a problem.

 

Outside that... fair trial?  We aren't talking about a Fair trial vs an unfair one here.

We're talking about an in absentia trial vs EXECUTION.

 

Me, i'd rather have the whole inabsentia trial before they violated another countries soverign airspace and dronned my ass personally.

Previously he didn't qualify as a target because he was only in the propaganda wing.  Now they are claiming he's moved over into operations, but offered no proof of it.

So essentially, we're going purely on the governments word.

I don't see anything legally wrong here, he was wanted dead or alive the military and police couldn't take him alive so they killed him. This has been going on hundreds of years in the US , hundreds if not thousands of American citizens were killed without a trial of any sort. I can't see how this should be treated any differently especially since the guy was so adoment about killing American soldiers and citizens.

Your right I haven't seen evidence to suggest he actually planned any attacks. However he recruited and brainwashed tons of people to carry out these attacks. He met with known terrorists and encouraged them to carry out attacks, he was also rising through the ranks and is thought to have been a runner up for leader of Al-Qaida.

I agree its a little sketchy that the US Government can just kill someone off that they dislike. But they've been doing it for hundreds of years and so do all the major countries. Its nothing knew and to get outraged now is sorta late.

As for would I be outraged if Canada killed a Canadian citizen without a trial? Not in this case, now had the accused not been so obvious of their criminal intent and the Government not provide a good reason to justify the attack I would of course not support such an attack. Like say Canadian Soldiers in Afghanistan killed a Canadian citizen and said he was a terrorist but didn't provide any evidence to support that claim. I'd be out raged.

But this man was so clearly an Al-Qaeda member he was an obvious threat either directly as the US claims (Planning attacks) or indirectly (Brainwashing recruits and supporting them in their attacks).

This is a war (War on Terror) and he is an enemy combatant. He had a dead or alive warrant and their is plenty of evidence that proves he was hostile and had criminal intent. He was an obvious threat and the US acted in its best interest in killing him. Though they might have been better off asking Britain or Canada or another country to pull the trigger. You said you wouldn't mind if another country killed him and don't mind America killing other countries citizens without trial.

So maybe a good move in the future would be every time a country is faced with having to kill one of their citizens just call up a close ally and have them do the job. That would erase all this, though there is still very little legal basis for being against this assasination!