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Chrizum on 01 October 2011
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Soleron said:
blunty51 said:
Chrizum said:
blunty51 said:
Chrizum said:
freebs2 said:

in M64 when you enter a level you don't have a forced objective, you can go for the star you prefer.

That's actually not true at all. You still had to choose a star before you start a level just like in all other 3D Marios after it. Banjo Kazooie had more freedom than any Mario game.

Yes, but you still had more freedom in M64 than any other even if you choose a star in the beginning. In most cases you basically had the same stage structure/design no matter what you choose, enabling you to get any star, whereas after M64 it got too specific. This is actually good, AND bad.

I agree that the structure of the levels remained largly the same regardless which star you chose, but in SM64 you could only get the star you picked in the beginning, any other star would be blank and thus wouldn't count to your star total. That's a design decision I never understood.

Hmm...has it really been so long that I haven't played SM64? I could have sworn you could get almost any star even if you choose one at the beginning of the level. Ah well, kinda makes me wanna play it again for old times sake.

I just checked; that guy is wrong. For most stars you could get them on any star. Stars would only be 'blank' if you'd already collected them which is obvious.

There were certain stars only accessible on their 'own' star or sometimes a 'later' on (e.g. Snowman's Lost His Head and the penguin race requires you to click on it) but on that same level (Cool Cool Mountain), any star 1-6 allows you to get Stars 1,2, 4 and 6. It was mostly non-linear though and I remember getting many stars out of order.

In Sunshine, Galaxy and Galaxy 2 it became completely linear. There was an easter egg in Sunshine where you can get Star 2 of Bianco Hills from Star 1 (and the NPC says something funny when you do) but that's the only one I recall.

As to this thread I think 2D and 3D Mario are different series and should be kept so; I like 2D linear and 3D open-world exploration and started to dislike Galaxy's style once it got to the second game and 3D Land is the first Mario game I will not be buying (and I have MANY)

Thanks for clearing that up, it was ages ago when I played SM64, but back then I made up my mind that Banjo Kazooie was superior to SM64 because of that. Seems I was wrong. Now I feel like getting SM64 on Virtual Console...