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Zkuq on 30 September 2011
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Griffin said:
Zkuq said:
To all the guys who complained this game promotes camping: No it doesn't, it promotes tactical gameplay. I've been doing pretty well in both the PC version and the PS3 version by moving, and actually thinking where I'm moving. I get low fps on PC and I'm a horrible at shooters on consoles so by no means do I have it that easy... But I'm definitely not a camper and I've been doing well enough (KDR has been above 1 in every round I think, and I've also managed to destroy quite a few objectives).

Anyway, to get slightly back on the camping issue, I'd say there's lots of stuff that requires skills other than just killing. Killing is only one thing that requires skill. If you want shooters that focus on killing, you should go play Quake or Unreal Tournament or something like that instead of trying teamplay-based shooters.

The matches already last long enough, most of us don't feel like crawing around the map to get kills and playing that way just ruins the game.  Oh look i can crawl along in a bush and kill people as they walk by and nobody knows where i killed them from.  And in the first area so many people are just playing sniper it destroys the game. 

The respawning on teammates is also screwed, i'll clear an area then some guy slips by then you have 4-6 guys now right behind you and the other 6 in front.  The game is as random and camp crazy as no other game.

This beta is doing nothing to help them sell the game.  If anyone thought ghost campers were bad in blops they haven't seen anything yet.

You are obviously playing the wrong game it you want shorter rounds and faster-paced gameplay. I'm not saying BF is a very realistic game but in the real world, you won't be getting very far if you walk in the open and expect to survive.

Respawning on teammates is a working gameplay-mechanic. Personally I'm not a huge fan of it but allows for more dynamic gameplay and less running from the spawn to the frontline. If you let that one guy slip by, too bad for you. It's annoying when it happens but it only means you should be more careful when you clear out an area.

You're right about the beta not helping to sell the game. It's buggy, and it's not CoD. It's also not entirely BF because it's mostly Rush instead of Conquest. I believe much of the camping problem (which I still don't recognize to have happened in the beta yet, although I want to play more so that could change but I doubt it) would disappear if we actually got to play Conquest when gameplay isn't focused on two static objectives. (And that's not to say objective-based gameplay always brings camping problems.)