Should Xbox 720 be released in Japan?

[Michael-5]

brendude13 said:

Michael-5 said:

I kind of agree with you, but this arguement is not limited to JRPG's. 3rd party exclusives all together make no sense, especially when the PS3 and 360 are so similar.(1) I think all JRPG's should be multiplatform because had I not boughten a PS3, I would never have enjoyed Valkyria Chronicles.

You make so many interesting points, I dunno what to tackle first.

First of all I don't think JRPG's becoming exclusives on various platforms (Tales/XenoBlade for Wii, Tales/Lost Odyssey for 360, Tales/Valkyria Chronicles for PS3) is the reason why we are seeing less JRPG's and more mediocre ones. (2) It's more so because the Japanese audience is migrating to handhelds. Dragon Quest IX for instance was a DS title, not a PS360 one, and it's the best selling Dragon Quest to date. It's just easier to make JRPG's for handhelds, and lets face it, the genre is, and has always been reletivly niche. (3) The only real JRPG's to ever show strong (not just good) sales are Final Fantasy's, and a handful of Square enix SNES JRPG's. So why make them for home consoles when the main JRPG market mainly plays on handhelds?

(4) As for Valkryia Chronicles, I thought it sold quite well. Look into Sega JRPG's and see how much they normally sell. I believe Valkyria Chronicles is among the best selling. Also Lost Odyssey is a really good game, I'm really surprised it didn't break 1 million.

As for Tales of... The franchise has had such a weird history, and most of their games never get localized.

(5) I just wish Tales of Vesperia released outside of Japan for PS3, and I wish Tales of Xillia went multi-platform. I guess however Namco likes to mock us. I just hope any future handheld Tales of Games get localized because none of the DS ones did. (6) I hope Tales of Graces gets localized too.

(6) You've only played Vesperia correct? Get Abyss for PS2 (if your PS3 is BC).

1. I don't think they should be, that's why I want them to differentiate, I want most if not all JRPG's to stay away from the Xbox 360, it is the console where the genre will find the least success and there is not much interest in that particular type of game.

2. This is also true, but the reason why I think some JRPG's have migrated to handhelds is because they can't find a home on consoles, triggered by a bad start to the generation with all of Microsoft's exclusive deals combined with the poor sales and the fact that the PS3 wasn't selling. I don't find handhelds practical, I want a large screen and deep sound with a full sized controller, if that didn't bother me then I would probably be happy playing handhelds right now.

3. If JRPG's find a comfortable home on the PS3 in 2012, with the right marketting, I think games like Final Fantasy Versus XIII and Tales of Xillia can crack a million easily, Versus XIII could probably do 2 million. Sure JRPG's are happy on handhelds, but handhelds can't always deliver that epic experience you expect from a JRPG, the same experience you had during the SNES, PS1 and PS2 days. There is a huge demand for JRPG's on consoles that isn't being met.

4. It released fairly early on the PS3 and it was seen as one of its biggest exclusives, 1 million is excellent, it just isn't anywhere near the 5 million from flagship titles like Metal Gear Solid 4. On second thoughts, 1 million is just about right.

5. Same, if it did I wouldn't have bought a 360 though. That's another thing that irritates me, we're missing all that extra content in the Japanese version, apparently there is a contract between MS and Bandai Namco which means they can't release the game on PS3 in the West (along with the extra content), I enjoy my 360 and everything but I hate Microsoft's guts.

6. ...Haven't you heard? http://www.neoseeker.com/news/15665-tales-of-graces-f-hitting-north-america/

7. I haven't got a backwards compatible PS3, I do have a PS2 hooked up to my HDTV with component cables though, the difference is absolutely huge. As for Tales of the Abyss, it was never released in Europe, I am considering modding my console though, I want to play NTSC games.

1. I disagree. I encourage JRPG's to be released on the 360, in fact when I had both a PS3 and a 360 I bought my JRPG's for 360 to not only encourage localization, but to encourage multi-platform releases. I hate console stereotypes. I bought my 360 largely for JRPGs, and yes sales are a lot worse on the 360 then the PS3, but they are still better then on the Wii. I want American and European gamers to get into JRPG's and I know at least if the game is released on 360 it will be localized. The same can't be said for half the Tales franchise, and most Wii exclusive JRPG's.

2. PS3 is selling decently well in Japan. Japanese gamers appreciate a proper HD game as much as anyone, their TV's are on average 5 years more advanced then ours, but the problem is Japanese houses are all very tiny. So playing on a handheld makes sense. Now that handehelds have reached a point of graphics that doesn't require sprites, I can see why many gamers have decided to switch. Games similar to the PS3 are possible on the PSP, and gameplay/story come first when it comes to JRPG's.

3. Tales of and Final Fantasy are huge brand name JRPG's. I expect both games to crack 2 million, and Versus to crack 5 if it stays exclusive. I mean how long has Versus been in development for? However I'd rather have both these mega titles go multi-platform, so western audiences (who for the most part have 360's instead of PS3's) can also enjoy these games. I mean imagine if a great japanese anime never localized. Hardcore anime fans would appreciate it, but english speaking fans won't.

That huge demand for JRPG's on consoles is largly from areas outside of Japan. More reason to release these games as multi-platform titles. I don't want to have to buy another PS3 (my old one broke, but I got it used) just for Tales of Xillia, but I'm tempted.

4. 1 million for a JRPG is great. Very few RPG's sell above that and usually they are "brand name" JRPG's like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Tales of..., Kingdom Hearts, or Pokemon.

5. For the same reason I don't want tales of Vesperia and FFVXIII to be exclusive. I very much enjoy owning FFXIII on my 360. Feels like I'm breaking the stereotype.

6. They haven't announced which platforms Tales of Graces f will be localized for. I'm really hoping for a 360 port, otherwise I'm likely to get the game for Wii.

7. If you are going to mod your console, do it with a used console. Most modded consoles break quickly, I have lots of friend with modded systems.