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pearljammer said:
this research is just as false as the research reporting atheists to be more wealthy and educated . the gap between the researched groups is too big. so, you see, it works both ways, your just biased to another.
They are completely different. One is completely empirical and, from what I've seen from studies of secular societies, not significantly different based on geography. It isn't even a suggestion - it is undeniable. Please don't assume my lack of judgment based on my biasedness. I've given nothing but evidence to support my claim - my motivation was based on my biasedness, yes, however, the evidence I've given is quite convincing regardless.
They really arent that different. For example, you have 20 atheitsts and 200 theists. Now only 50 theists make more than lets say, 200k per year. That would be 25%. And for atheists, you have 10 of them who make over 200k a year, so thats 50%. So, on averige atheitsts make more money. As for your studies the results are similar just the gap is smaller, but the point stays. Religious people, are in general, more satisfied with their lifes and atheists are more likely to be sad and miserable.
its not really. its funny how atheists always support criticism of one ideology (especially if its a religious one) but once they are put to it, they start complaining and whining. what makes your ''superb belief'' free of any form of criticism at all?
Where is this even coming from? My belief is far from criticizing. It's criticized every day to better model our understanding. I admit that we don't really have a clue with all of the specifics on how the universe started and evidence is scarce with abiogenesis and that I, especially me, am only relatively knowledgable about these things we still know so little about. I'm not claiming to have all the answers - just simply that it makes no sense to jump to a conclusion that cannot possibly ever be known without any inkling of evidence.
Funny how you say your beleifs are far from criticizing and in the next paragraph you say your an anti-theist, which is solely based simply on criticizing and hostility towards religion.
On another note, I am an anit-theist as well (I admit to know next to nothing about eastern religions and reserve any judgment). However, I rarely speak as one here as to avoid needless confrontation. It's sad that one cannot have an open forum being both sceptical and critical over religion without accusations of being inciteful and incapable of self-criticism. I realize that, yes, it does, work both ways. What doesn't help though is when users like yourself and others (atheist and theists alike) start hurling assumptions and insults every which way and ignore any bit of reasonable criticism or testimony given. I criticize you specifically because: a) you're the thread creator and you posed the study; and b) you're of dissenting opinion to myself, obviously.
The sad thing is, that the assumptions and accusations in both ways are, unfortunately true. One group is just a lot more vocal the other about criticizing it and is thus, a lot more vulnerable to the accusation of being inicteful and incapable of self criticism.. And what exactly did I said my post that you took as an insult?
why do atheists engage religious peple when so many of them consider them to be less human beings with lower inteligence? same can be said for your fellow believers
I'm not getting dragged into this childish back and forth. I do not mean this in a condescending way as I know several atheists are responding in kind. I however, am not getting into it. The inferrential belittling and victim-playing is reprehensible.
I know, ALL TOGETHER 2. I know I didnt mention it in my post, but of course, I didnt mean ALL atheists by that statment.
whats there to adress? the results arent really that different, the gap is just smaller, my research dealt with the issue on a lot bigger scale
It is significantly smaller. The magnitude of the difference is hugely different. If you can look at those numbers and refuse the conclusion that factors of geography (population, being part of a minority, communal factors, etc) are not as or, what seems most likely, significantly more important, then you're willfully ignorant to the facts.
It's plain for anyone to see. I'll post again if anyone chooses not to take my word on it:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/650q541579041625/fulltext.html
See above
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