kain_kusanagi said:
I've ground tired of you and this thread of yours. I've replied a few times in a civil manner to try to convince you that God is not something that you can explain or explain away scientifically. I've either gotten no response or a short reply belittling my points. Points I might add were valid observations. You have zero regard for people with faith. That much is apparent. You have disrespected people and their religion with nearly each post in this thread. What's funny is, you seem to believe you're being nice about it. I think in your own twisted way you think you're talking down to children and they don't know what you're doing. I have news for you, we aren't fools and you aren't saving us from a world with religion. I don't know why you despise religion so much or why you have so little respect for people's faith, but I think it's time to stop. You have had your say and now it's getting old. People have tried to get this through to your hate clouded mind, but I'm going to say it again for clarity. God cannot be proven or disproven. You know that, I know that, we all know that. It's a moot point. This topic is a farce. Science, in all its splendor, cannot bare witness to the unseen. Stop trying to define, categorize, and catalogue people's faith. As for your latest offensive comment above. Has it never occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, people read their holy texts BECAUSE they believe in God and not the other way around? Probably not. You probably think everyone who believes in God was brainwashed as children and never thought twice about it. In truth faith is constantly tested, not by people like you, but by each individual person of faith, internally. Sure there are idiots who don't give any thought to their religion, but there are idiots everywhere. If we judged the validity of an organization solely on its dumbest supporters all organizations and government would look like a joke. Videogame forums would probably be the biggest joke of the all. My advice to you is to try to deal with the fact that religion surrounds you. You don't have to participate and you don't even have to like it. If you want to be happy I suggest you learn to tolerate it. This will be my last reply. I'll probably read your response if you leave one, but I have no further interest in discussing this topic. Seriously, the best thing to do would be to delete this farce of a topic and pretend it never happened. Good day. |
and yet you STILL completely miss the point.
I don't care if people have faith, I don't care if you believe there's a God or Mohammed or Buddha or Zeus, I don't care if you believe in pixies or spirits or witches or vampires or the Matrix. I don't care if you have faith, I feel we all have a right to believe what we want.
the PROBLEM is that we have these religious people using God as an excuse to kill one another, fight one another, act superior, and interfere with scientific progress. if religion, as a whole, continues to do this (which it will), I feel it is very important that they quantify their beliefs. if Religion is going to be such an important part of society, they shouldn't be protected from criticism by their whiny "B'awww, don't attack my faith" fall-back even though (and I say this as a general statement, not at you directly) they are regularly attacking our science and politics.
If you have faith, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. the moment someone starts saying "This is real" and "God wants us all to do this" and "Evolution is false, intelligent design is real" or "Stem Cell research is the devil", or they decide to judge me because I don't follow their faith, I have a problem. I wouldn't have a problem if there was more than "I believe this because my preacher/my bible/my heart tells me to."
and NOBODY HAS BEEN ABLE TO QUANTIFY IT. I've read every single response in this thread and nobody has actually done anything more than defend their faith, nothing has offered evidence to any God's existence. No math, no science, jsut a lot of "this is what I believe and why I believe it."
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