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Seece said:
kitler53 said:
UncleScrooge said:
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So far we've heard of a new Wii Fit, a new 2D Mario and a new Wii Sports (or an enhanced Wii Sports version that makes use of the controller). We've also seen the demos you mentioned. Basically all of the games (esides Zelda) we've heard of or seen so far have been mass market games. 

Saying the controller is awkward and won't sell people on the console is something I totally agree with. But this sentiment of "Nintendo doesn't want to make Wii Sports / Mario Bros." simply doesn't hold water at this point. If these games suddenly dissappear at next year's e3 we can start jumping to conclusions.

only speaking for what i know (my mother) she loved wii sports but didn't buy wii sports resort, she loved wii fit but didn't get wii fit plus.  sequels to these franchises won't hurt but i don't think for her (a very casual gamer and by casual i mean she doesn't dedicate an enormous amount of time/money into gaming) it will be enough to upgrade to the wii U.

i mean, just look at nintendogs ds vs. 3ds.  despite selling more than 24M on the ds, the 3ds version has sold less LTD (which is about 5 months) then the ds version did in 2 weeks.

nintendo will need something complete new imo.  i have no idea what will excite that audience but nintendo had better have some ideas or i don't think the wii U will recapture that audience.  i just don't think a sequel can recapture their attention.

It's flat out not going to happen anyway. The WiiU isn't accessible like the Wii is, and I'm not calling the Wii a fad, but its popularity has certainly likened itself to that, a very early peak Vs. the other consoles this gen.

I think Nintendo understand this, people (Nintendo fans) like to claim Nintendo are like some ever lasting fountain of innovative ideas but it isn't true, there is only so much they can come out with, and they've proven they'll use gimmicks as a cover up for lack of innovation (3DS)

WiiU is obviously the same, they've run out of ideas, they know a straight down the line core console would get brutally beaten by whatever Sony and MS bring out, and that a slight upgrade to the Wii would be worthless as that audience doesn't care about graphics, and to be perfectly honest, they don't care about all these 3rd party games being announced for WiiU either ... it just isn't Nintendo's audience.

Nintendo are in for another Gamecube generation, albeit it more successful obviously. Which is no bad thing, it's where they concentrate on the core nintendo fanbase.

i'm not sure how you can say the wii U isn't accessible; it supports all the previous things like the wii-mote, motion plus, balance board, ect.   the wii U controller itself has a lot of bells and whistles but so did the DS and it didn't stop very accessible touch driven games from being wildly sucessful. 

now i don't entirely disagree either, i think nintendo has largely run out of good ideas.  if they hadn't i don't think you'd have seen the wii collapse like it did.  but hey, they have a better chance at striking it twice then sony does at striking it once lol.  it will be interesting to see what happens to nintendo with the wii U.