American Atheists' 9/11 Memorial Lawsuit Crosses the Line of Decency

[sapphi_snake]

Player1x3 said:

sapphi_snake said:

You're actually wrong. Christians weren't being persecutted when they hijacked Christmas. It was starting with the 4th century did Christians start celebrating Christmas during the winter.

And it's funny how you talk about educating others, when you yourself are terribly uneducated regarding this issue. Most of the Christmas traditions we have today come from pegan festivals: the gift giving custom comes from the Roman Saturnalia (I actually can't believe you think Christians started this one), using lights and being charitable are coustoms adopted from the Roman New Year, and Christmas carols and the Christmas tree come from Scandinavian pagan traditions. There's actually little Christmas customs have to do with Christianity and Jesus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas#Pre-Christian_background

People would've definately celebrated something at Christmas time, considering that all over Europe there were festivals at that time, and people love holidays. Christmas doesn't need Christianity, and no longer uses it anyway.

And Santa Clause certainly isn't a religious figure. He was made popular by fiction books and Coca Cola.

That is silly, sappi, every country and culture have a different way of celebrating christmas, the english/american way isnt the only way. in serbia, for example we dont even celebrate christmas on december 25th but on january 7th, and we dont decorate the tree for christmas but for new year. there are tons other different traditions i just cant explain and name them all in english. the western way of celebrating christmas isnt the only way

Christmas traditions have nothing to do with Christianity. That's what I was trying to point out to Jowl. even the habit of being charitable during Christmas was taken from a pagan holiday.