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zarx said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
of course god exists and its very simple to prove. just look around you, hell take a look at yourself in the mirror. forget science, god made science. alot of religious books have very specific details on our universe, the planets and how they work and all accurate. all this comes from god himself, not science. the way the world works is too perfect, as though god gimself is manupulating the planets. did you know the earth is perfect size for human life? any bigger or any smaller and it wouldnt be possible. to believe that our universe somehow just came together in the perfect spots all by itself is bizarre.


But the world is far from perfect, much of it is uninhabitable or is incapable of supporting the animals and humans that live there (much of Africa for example), it is full of war, pestilence, greed etc the planet is unstable causing earthquakes, volcanoes etc. 

 

You are thinking about it wrong human life is perfect for this size of planet, the planet came first and life adapted to it. And the fact that life developed on a planet that could suport it is just common sense, I mean it's not like life would develop on a planet that couldn't support it would it? In a universe that is increadably vast containing trillions of planets the fact that one happned to have the right conditions is just the law of averages working it's self out, it's basically the typewriting monkey anology given infinite time and space it had to happen eventually. And before you say that the fact that the universe is has the possiblity for life to develop given the right conditions is proof of God, it doesn't if it didn't we simply wouldn't exist all us existing is is proof that the universe was capable of creating a situation where we could. 


Just to answer your 1st paragraph, world isnt perfect because us humans made it so. I dont think he was talking about society in the world, i think he was talking about the nature and the structure of the world itself and how perfectly its working trough its complicated process. Pestilence, war and greed are all faults of humans, not the world we live in