Daily Finance: Why MicroSoft Will Never Be Great Again

[vlad321]

kowenicki said:

vlad321 said:

Seece said:

I am aware, and you can dampen it all you like 1.3B is not 'barely profitable' it's more than Sony have ever achieved with the Playstation division since its inception. To put it in perspective.

Why are you so focused about Sony? Sony isn't even relevant when it comes to Microsoft. As far as Microsoft's profits go, the Xbox is basically insignificant and arugably pointless (and possibly harmful given how they decided to fuck a core audience of Windows to barely turn a profit).

Well given your barometer, its perfectly reasonable to bring Sony into the discussion.... 

How long has the Playstation brand existed now?  I think I am right in saying that even now the playstation divsion only accounts for around 10% of revenue for Sony... and proftability...? it hasn't got any... add all the years together and it has barely made a cent  (any profits for PS1 and PS2 vanished due to PS3)... It might even be showing a net loss still... it certainly was up until recently. 

So just using figures such as the ones you decided were a great barometer for importance clearly do not tell the whole story.  If this was all that mattered then Sony should have ditched Playstation by now... but it isnt. There are intagible benefits to having these brands.  Certainly Sony and MS feel that way.

Funny because the Playstation seems to do pretty well for Sony. When it started getting profits, it seemed to help Sony overall pretty significantly. If you drop out the Playstation from Sony, they would be in a much worse place than if you dropped out Xbox from Microsoft. If that were to happen Microsoft would more or less shrug its shoulders. Also the games division is Sony's second biggest product group.

Edit: Some numbers I scrounged up: The playstation+vaio division made nearly 46 bil yen. TVs, cameras, etc. made 27. So I guess it's not as insignficiant as you want me to believe.