Prove that God exists

[Runa216]

I want to say, this is NOT a troll thread, I'm not looking to piss people off nor am I demanding perfection of the imperfect.  I am, however, looking for some answers. 

Religion is a huge part of modern culture, there's no denying this.  People go to church, say "god bless you", and generally seem to be okay with believing in it and accept it at face value.   But a lot of this is a pervasive remnant of a culture that should have died 60 years ago.  We are living in an age of enlightenment, where more and more of the universe is being discovered and Science is contributing to this world more and more, so it's less and less rational to believe in something like God.  In a world where we need absolute, undeniable proof of something before we believe it (pics or it didn't happen, not to mention many people are actively resisting Stem Cell research because much of the limited research so far has been largely inconclusive), it's a very biased attitude to be fine with having faith in god without that same demand for proof.  

so I submit that, if people the world over want to continue to not only run their lives based off an archaic belief system but control the rest of the people by pushing those views, I propose we demand empirical evidence of god.  Any God.  

And no, "you can't prove that God exists, this isn't fair" isn't an adequate response. Being okay with having faith or twisting logic so that "it's all a test" is not good enough, if Religion is to persist in the modern world it should be subject to the same criticism and rigorous testing the rest of our lives demand. Religion should not be given a free pass simply because it's been a part of our social collective for so long, without progress we stagnate, so if you're going to cling to those beliefs without proof, then at least try to substantiate it. 

So go, offer proof. Hell, even rational theories will do, I honestly want to hear them, but expect skepticism.  

Edit!  New Rules! 

 

Whoooooah boys, time to back it up a bit. I'm thinking this thread needs a PROPER reboot, since it's been so thoroughly derailed. Instead of being vague, HOPING for things to go the way I want them to go so I can make my point, I think now's about the time I give this thread a gritty reboot, and I make things clear for once.

 

I do NOT have a problem with religious people, some of my best friends and family are very religious, and I find their company to mostly be delightful since they're all “I wanna do good in this life so I can be happy in the next” types. Religion CAN breed some of the nicest, kindest people in the world, bar none. I do not deny this and giving that impression was NEVER my intention. That said, what I DO have a problem with is people shoving their religion in my face. I have a problem with people who use god or religion as an excuse to judge others. I have a problem with people who go door to door pushing their beliefs down your throat. I have a problem with terrorists who are pushing their beliefs and judgement on others VIOLENTLY. I have a problem with the Westboro baptist church. I have a problem with any religious person in the world who in any way feels it's their duty or right to say “This is what I believe, therefore I must make you believe it too”, regardless of the aggression present in said actions.

 

I don't like the idea of religion, it's too easy to corrupt and it makes it far to easy to skirt responsibility. That said, if you believe in a god, goddesses, or spirits, ALL THE POWER TO YOU, just keep it to yourself. The moment ANYONE decides to push faith as fact (God IS this, God IS that, God WANTS us to do this, etc), I demand three stages of proof. If people want to keep making grand assumptions and basing their life on it, telling me to do the same, I demand the following:

 

1 – Prove that God is real, or at least provide some solid evidence to support that theory.

3 – Prove that your interpretations about that god are real, not just baseless assumptions.

2 – Prove that YOUR god is the right one, by comparing evidence for yours compared to others.

If you cannot provide supporting evidence to back up all three claims, then leave your faith where it belongs: in your heart. Do not push it as fact, do not try to teach it in schools, do not run your political campaign using it, and most certainly, do not use it to judge, belittle, or terrorize others. Do not use it as infallible moral guidance, do not tell others how to live their lives, and do not claim that religion has all the answers unless you can prove it.

Faith is an extremely personal thing. I like a LOT of strange things, I like weird food, I like weird art, and I like a lot of things in life that most would just find strange and irrational, but just because I find comfort in my various tastes does not mean that, in any way, do I have a right to push those opinions and values on others. No exceptions.