Michael-5 said:
Reasonable said:
Michael-5 said:
Reasonable said:
I don't know about 15 million but I wouldn't try and extrapolate too much from the initial boost. It's a real quiet time of the year and therefore any cut was simply going to get the minimal spike without any big new SW. The price cut seemed timed to me to get PS3 ready to be more attractive during the glut of games releasing through September and up to the big December spike. We won't really know how well the PS3 price cut worked until January 2012 TBH.
It's pretty obvious from current comments that MS is probably not going to officially cut the RRP but will use bundles and other promotional offers to essentially offer a price cut from the consumer perspective (consumers seeing a promotion and a price cut as equally attractive, in fact often promotions are seen as more attractive for a short period) and counter the PS3 price cut without having to formally annouce an ongoing permenant price reduction.
Going to be an interesting close to 2011 from a sales perspective, with each HD platform releasing big exclusives plus a lot of big multi-games as well with the hardware cheaper than ever whether due to promotions or price cuts.
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Well we will still see if the PS3 bost mimics the Wii boost in a couple weeks time. Predicting what will happen during the holidays, it's still far too soon. However we can still track PS3's progress during the next few weeks, and if it falls below 2010 weekly sales, I think it's somewhat safe to expect 2011 annual sales to be lower then 2010 (if holiday sales are equal, the slightly lower sales pre-price cut will make 2011 overall less).
As for MS, do uyu really think they won't cut the price of 360? They will at least cut Kinects price if you ask me, and MS also plans 15 million for their fiscal year (ending June 2012), so they must be planning something. I'm thinking they are timing the price cut to go along a more major release, or maybe they are making a Kinect integrated console. They must be planing something otherwise 15 million is a dream.
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As I said I think MS will use bundles, deals, promotions, etc. to effectively cut the price of a 360 without having to officially lower the RRP. They seem to be bullish about their numbers which I suspect means they have backup "buy the market" deals ready to execute if they need to. Of course Sony know as well as MS how to operate "buy the market" deals and may mix some big deals in with the price cut during the holiday ramp up period.
As for the PS3 price cut is it seems to me to clearly be a preparatory price cut - made in advance of when it's expected to have its major effects. Therefore I wouldn't read too much into how it mimics the Wii at the moment. I'm not anyway. I don't think we'll really see its effects until later in the year when the big releases start hitting then into the holiday period.
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I agree, but for the next month PS3's sales spike may mimic the Wii's. That's all I'm saying.
For fall I don't think mega game bundles will be enough for MS. All these bundles have digital games and a 4GB 360 can't hold that many games (if any, never downloaded one). I mean I expect some Forza/Kinect or Dance Central/Kinect Bundles, but MS needs to lower their price.
Honestly I'm expecting MS to bring out a $179 4GB (or maybe more memory) 360 Kinect bundle, as well as a $279 320GB 360 Kinect Bundle, and bring down the price of a stand alone Kinect to $119 at least.
Let's see what happens though, right now I just can't amagine MS making 15 million without something drastic. Even the price cut on PS3 won't be enough to make 15m for PS3. I also wonder howbig Wii will be this fall.
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I think Wii might have one last surprise in terms of holiday spike left in it, but we'll see. As for MS I think it depends on how aggresive they get with deals. If they don't put together crazy cheap bundles or cut Kinect price (which I see as a peripheral seperate to 360 price) then a 360 price cut might indeed be needed.
I get you on short term comparison of PS3 to Wii, I'm just noting that in the bigger picture their trends and software patterns look to be different right now so I think they'll diverge again in profile petty soon when new titles start to release for PS3 (big ones obviously).
