PS3 Owners: Why haven't you bought Mass Effect 2?

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Jay520 said:

There are plenty of reasons why he could have turned the game down. Just because he didn't actually list any doesn't give you the right to call him arrogent. You are assuming he turned the game down due to arrogence, when in actuality there are plenty of non-arrogent reasons why he could have turned the game down: the game's cover system, the game's lack of RPG elements, the game is too short for him, maybe it was arrogence, who knows?There was not enough evidence in his post for you to conclude that arrogence, or any other reason, was why he turned the game down.

In the first paragraph, you say you accused him of arrogence because he 'likely' never tried the game. You have no right to label anyone as arrogent because of your assumptions.

In the second paragraph, again, you make too many assumptions and jump to conclusions to quickly. You assume he 'won't look at the game'. I see no where in his post where he says he never touched the game. Sure, he says he 'couldn't care less' about the game. But that doesn't mean he's never played it.

Even if he never touched the game, which you have no evidence to believe, that doesn't mean he's arrogent. Maybe he didn't buy the game because it was stripped of most RPG elements, maybe he doesn't like cover shooters, Are ME games long enough for him? All are important questions that neither you or I have the answer to. Which means neither of us has enough evidence to call the guy arrogent.

In the third paragraph, you say you have the right to say if an opinion is based on arrogence. That is true only if you have sufficient evidence to back up such a claim. All you know is some guy, who may or may not have tried the game, decided not not to buy Mass Effect 2 for a various amount of unknown reasons. That is certainly not conclusive enough.

I deleted the rest of your post because you were referring to general ps3 owners whom I know nothing about. My main reason for replying to you is to question your reason for calling Viper arrogent. But for the record, I will say this: Most PS3 fans didn't buy ME2 because they never played ME1, they refuse to pay full price for a year-old game, and because they already have it on the X360. Of course, those are all assumptions, much like your claims, and they cannot be proven true.

My main point is this: Arrogence is a pretty strong trait to accuse someone of having. If you're going to use it, make sure you KNOW you have evidence to back up your claim. Don't jump to conclusions so quickly. All the guy said was he already owned three RPG's that met his needs, therefore didn't feel the need to spend his money on another. That doesn't give you the right to go and insult the guy. That's one of the things I'm I dislike about this site. People are much too hostile & mean on here. It makes the entire site uncomfortable for anyone wanting to post their opinon.

P.S. Sorry for replying so late. Your post was so long that my phone couldn't load all the text correctly. It took me a while to find access to a computer.

 

But he didn't say all those "potential reasons" He said he had enough RPG's and isn't interested. This is arrogent. I'm not saying he is an evil baby eating lunatic for not giving the game a chance, just a bit arrogent. I think the reason why a lot of people aren't interested in this game is simply because it's old and despite good ratings PS3 owners just don't care. It's a port (well remake) of one of the best games this gen, but to PS3 owners it's just a port of a game.

This isn't limited to PS3 fans, I said multiple times 360 owners will likely do the same for Dark Souls.

Viper said "Couldn't care less about the ME series, that's why. Demon's Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, & Fallout 3 are good enough for my RPG needs."

There is no indication of if he played it or not, or if he enjoyed it, or even if it's his type of game. Maybe he doesn't like the type of game who knows, but you can't attack me on potential situations I never claimed. Maybe is different from absolute.

Viper said I don't care about W. X, Y, and Z are good enough, so he isn't interested in W. I'm saying this is arrogent because he is ignoring Mass Effect without giving it a chance. His statement implies that he couldn't care less about the franchise because he has enough, not because the game is particularly unappealing to him. It deserves a second look, even if Viper has enough RPG's, this game is so good it deserves a second look.

No hypothetical situations, he said he has enough, that's why he isn't interested in that. I am adressing that claim, and nothing more.

That was my point, and I still stand by it. Other since then have made worse comments. bullza90 Simply said "because I don't play crap." This may have just been trolling, but it's still arrogant.

You don't have to agree with me, that's your call, but a lot of single console owners become arrogent to other franchises. Many PS3 owners who are fans of GT don't recognize Forza as a compeditor, and same goes with 360 fans and Uncharted/Killzone. I feel stupid brand associations get in the way of many purchases (in this case), and I have every right to believe this.

"Most PS3 fans didn't buy ME2 because they never played ME1, they refuse to pay full price for a year-old game, and because they already have it on the X360. Of course, those are all assumptions, much like your claims, and they cannot be proven true."

All likely true. However, my arguement is not looking into the game, not just not buying it. Viper said "I couldn't care less." If someone didn't buy the game after trying it out, that would be one thing (although a deo does not do this game justice), but this is not the point I raised, which you attacked.

Also to be fair, the game is a remake using the Mass Effect 3 engine, and it comes with all the DLC. It also comes with a prologue which goes over Mass Effect 1. It's not just full price for a 1 year old game, it should still have sold at least half of what ME1 did on 360 IMO.

BTW If you feel I jumped the gun by calling Viper arrogent, it's because arrogence was my response the the OP and his comment was the most arrogent, non trolling statement on that page. I may have been able to find a better example, a more concrete case, but his was the most convienient. I have no intention of demeaning others. His comment was the closest, and I only intended to quote it as an example. Using real people is hearsay, using an actual quote gets people to notice and think about it. His comment was still arrogent because he didn't address any flaws or style of the game which he didn't like. He said he couldn't care less because he had enough. I still stand by my point in stating this is somewhat arrogent.