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archbrix on 26 August 2011
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nitekrawler1285 said:

Actually they are both horrible Mario games so the comparison is quite apt new or old.  If this 3/2d thing was gonna work then MG2 would have propelled Wii sales and sold a ton. It didn't and I'm guessing this one wont either. I would go as far as to say this Mario is worse than previous ones.  It does a bad job at doing 2d or 3d Mario in this bastardization.

Uh... I just can't take this response seriously.  You do realize the game isn't out yet, right?  Yet you practically have your own review of it.  And by the way, most companies would kill to have their games sell as well as Galaxy did.

Actually it does.  It shows that with even software not considered as massive as 2D mario or Pokemon that Nintendo systems can be bested in sales when they aren't making the right software despite large discrepencies in price. I say they aren't producing the right software now and for the forseeable future given what they have announced in development. If they thought their software alone was sufficient we wouldn't see this gigantic price cut so early in the systems life.

No, it really doesn't.  How does anything you say here refute my previous statement?  What you said was, "Having good software sales right out of the gate is really what matters".  The DS didn't have this, yet is now the best selling game system of all time.  The PSP started much stronger, yet the DS far outsold it.  Of course the right software matters, but the price drop was also about making the system more affordable to consumers, plain and simple.  If all of the software now and for the foreseeable future was bad, Zelda OoT 3D wouldn't have already sold over 1m units and the recent 3DS sales surge due to the price cut wouldn't have occurred at all.

Even if MK7 helps triple or quadrouple 3DS install base this christmas(which I highly doubt it will as that would would  mean they actually meet their fiscal year estimates) it really wont matter if 3rd party software isn't selling.  3rd parties are always looking for excuses to stop developing on Nintendo hardware.  We know for a fact Nintendo can't support the co nsole all on it's own.  It's why they have bent over backwards trying to get them on board and it's still not working because of tepid software sales.

Here I will agree that many 3rd parties are very anti-Nintendo, but conversely, others (such as Ubisoft) are quite the opposite.  The simple fact remains that if the installed base is there, most 3rd parties will support the system, and by the end of the year the 3DS will have a very nice head start over Vita in addition to a cheaper price.  And as far as Nintendo not being able to support a system by themselves, the Wii and the DS both reached their record numbers because of Nintendo's first party software, not 3rd parties.

They do still have all  the current blockbuster franchises on board(CoD, Madden, Assassins Creed etc).  Vita versions will be better than PS3 versions to boot this time with things like cross game voice chat etc.

Many people view the console experience as the defining versions of games like COD, Assassin's Creed, Uncharted or Bioshock.  They take full advantage of the big screen experience.  I'm not going to critique the Vita versions of these games as you did with your premature synopsis of Mario 3D Land; they could very well be the best versions of those games yet.  But to declare COD or Assassin's Creed Vita as being the better versions over the PS3 simply because of cross game voice chat is, again, very short sighted.