Muslim VGCers: What's the difference between Sunni and Shiite?

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Joelcool7 said:

huaxiong90 said:

Joelcool7 said:

Cool thanks for the explanation. I'm glad to know not all Muslim's believe the Quran shouldn't be translated. At least then they aren't blindly believing everything that their Imam says. I think knowledge of your Holy texts are really important in people's faiths. If you can't read your own Holy Text how can you call yourself a follower of that religion.

My Muslim friend also has a very bad outlook on Christian's and Jews which he says is founded in the Quran. However like I said he hasn't read the Quran. I'm not sure what his Imam is teaching but its sorta scary some of the stuff this guy says. Freaks me out, especially since he doesn't actually read the Quran.

 

Yeah, the second part is a tough one. While it is anti-Quranic to take such an outlook (you're not supposed to judge people based on their religion, ethnicity, etc.) on people who don't follow Islam, there are controversial verses that reference the other Abrahamic religions. But this is where not only is historical context important (in other words, the verses can't be nitpicked just like that), but also to note that it's referring to the wicked amongst the non-Muslims rather than all of them as a whole.

Well he says some scary shit like

1. I was talking to him about how Christian's and other religious groups were being forced to convert in some countries in Africa. He then said that it was Islamic and that all Infidel need to convert whether by choice or by force. I was like "Umm I'm Christian dude" and he was like "yah you'll convert if you need to , I have faith you will see the errors of your ways".

2. He also said shit like the creators of South Park or anybody who depicts the prophet Mohamed should be killed. I then asked about the guy who wrote about how Islam mistreats women. He said anyone who said anything contradictory to the teachings of Allah must die.

Long story short I was amazing friends with this guy. But recently statements like these creep me out. He also every time I see him says I'm going to convert and be saved.

The fact that he has not actually read the Quran combined with extremist statements really concerns me. To the point I don't really talk to the guy anymore.

3. I can't see the Quran promoting slaughtering everyone who doesn't believe or anyone who disagrees with the Quran. I've had conversations with Imam's who have told me contrary.

I talked with one Imam at the World Religion Conference. He told me that Muslims and the Quran have high respect for Christians and Jews. The people of the book he called Christians. He then told me how Christians and Jews were the descendants of Isaac and Muslims from Ishmael and said that Islam holds Christians and such in high regard.

4. He also told me that the Quran taught to help those being persecuted and that Muslims in the early days used to rebuild church's and help Christian's being persecuted by Rome.

So yah I've read a bit of the Quran. I also have talked to Islamic Imam's and his views seem alittle out of line. However on the other hand their are so many extremist Muslim's preaching what my friend says that its hard to understand where to truth lies.

My friend continues to say he's my friend. But it got pretty scary when he said Christian's should be killed if they don't convert and that I will convert if I need too. I wasn't sure whether to take that as a threat or not.

But the guy also seems like everyone else, plays video games, watches alotta movies and listens to secular music. He claims to be more liberal.

But to be honest talk like that does scare me. I don't think its based on the Quran, but I'm not 100% sure it isn't. Its hard to know what to believe when many Muslim's say it is and others that it isn't!

1. You CAN'T convert anyone to Islam by force.

2. This is wrong. He as a muslim should show the person depict prophet Mohammed how great prophet Mohammed was and should try to convert him to Islam. 

3. You can't kill anyone because he/she is not muslim. That what in the Quran.

4. He is right.

 

I think the problem is the Imam that your friend goes to.