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snakenobi said:
Michael-5 said:
snakenobi said:
Michael-5 said:

But things haven't been changing. 360 has always outsold PS3 in the holiday season, and the ratio of sales has been steady. PS3 actually had it's strongest fall in 2009, and gotten weaker compared to the 360 since.

who said it hasn't?

Who said it has? There is no indication of change, and no one is claiming that 360 won't sell more software during the holidays (except you).

You can't claim PS3 software is greater when trends say otherwise.

it has only been improving over the years

But I showed you that is hasn't. Where do you see evidence that it's improving?

This is just complete ignorance. I can easily name dozens of quality 360 exclusives that aren't Halo, Forza or Gears. Too Human, Lost Odyssey, Halo Wars, Tales of Vesperia, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction, Dance Central, Fable, Project Gotham Racing, Mass Effect, Crackdown, Blue Dragon, Test Drive Unlimited, etc etc.

I could just as easily say PS3 is all MGS, GT, GoW, LBP, and Uncharted because no other PS3 franchises sell well. 

lost odessy was pretty good - BEST JRPG this gen, higher metascore then Final Fantasy

halo wars was halo related - Different game entirely

tales of vesperia is on ps3 too - Never released in EMEAA or Americas, still 360 exclusive for just about anyone on this website.

PGR was always second fiddle to forza which MS recognized and shut it up - Play PGR before you say this BS. PGR was an arcade racer, Forza was Simulator, they aren't the same genre. Or are you living in 1995?

too human was shit. - You never played it. Every single person who I have talked to who has actually played this game loved it.

crackdown,test drive,blue dragon are you kidding? this isn't a naming game you know - These are sick franchises. I don't rip on Ratchet, LBP or InFamous, how can you rip on these?

yes PS3 is MGS,UNCHARTED,gow,infamous,lbp,gt which is far more than GEARS,HALO,FORZA.

WOW..... you really need to play 360. I actually own all 3 consoles, and have played these games. Stop judging games before you play them.

What about Kinect Sports? Dance Central, Mass Effect? Just because you have personal preference, doesn't mean the rest of the world shares it with you.


Maybe people just aren't interested in Killzone and Resistance? Maybe they just suck? Gears and Halo typically get 9-9.5 metascores, and 9.5/10 or higher ratings on credible websites. Killzone 3 is an 84/100 metascore, and Resistance is 86/87 respectivly.

dude,why be so delusional?

PS3 just isn't a shooter focused,u know it

You just ignored Fable, PGR, Lost Odyssey, Dance Central, Mass Effect, and Tales of among other franchises. Are you delusional? It obviously makes sense for better rated shooters to sell better. If PS3 isn't as shooter focused, why do Call of Duty, Battlefield, and Resident Evil sell well? Why is it just that Resistance and Killzone don't?

After all Uncharted 2 and MGS4 sold decently well and they are the only PS3 exclusive shooters with a decent rating. 

MGS4 isn't a shooter,it has shooting elements but mainly its an experience.even UC2 is more of action adventure

It's an experience? I wonder what genre websites label it as. It's far more story focused, like Uncharted, but they are both 3PS by gameplay.

Stop changing the subject.We are talking about software. You claimed the ratio between CoD titles is decreasing for 360, but I just showed you that per console 360 is selling more software then PS3 with each installment.

when did i change the subject,u are the one going offtopic all the time.

yeah but PS3 is also sellign more software

But it's not? Can't you just look at figures?

COD will always be a bit bigger on 360 than PS3 given the fanbase choice.

I'm sure that's the only reason.

Not only is this true for Call of Duty, but for every major non sports franchise (FIFA is slightly growing on PS3, Madden is even).

don't even talk about Madden and FIFA,they are location fan based titles

Hence I excluded them. ALL MAJOR NON SPORTS FRANCHISES, sell more software per console owner then PS3 versions.

This only disproves any arguement you have of PS3 having greater software because of market trends, since the market trends actually work against you.

what trends,please list them out.360 barely outsold PS3 total SW last year where PS3 had a bigger lead the previous year

Percentage wise, the lead is smaller, but per console owner, it is growing. Just look at the data, and do a little math, I've done enough for you.

Individual franchises are seeing higher software sales on the 360 then PS3 and the ratio is growing,

we aren't talking about individual SW,COD mention was just one of the indications thats all.don't mix it with total SW talk

Total software AND individual franchises are both showing this pattern.

and 360 software always increases over the fall term. PS3 is only 3% ahead this year, it's been furthur ahead before, and still lost at the years end.

PS3 was further before but it lost by lesser than the year before which is what i'm talkign about

Yea, but that makes sense. The PS3-360 sales gap is holding around 4 million. If both consoles sell 12 million in a given year, that gap percentage wise is smaller. However if we take the number of software sales, divide by total hardware, you will see that 360 software is higher per console owner and has been growing the last year, and longer.

This is the whole principle of the debate, you were wrong, and that is the end of it.

its funny how you are trying to run away and always leave this last line of this sort

I don't want to debate with you. You bring nothing to the table, and think your right, then you tell me that I don't understand the market, when you are applying grade school type trend patterns which don't represent anything accuratly.











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