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fordy said:
badgenome said:

They want minimum wage laws to be abolished, too... "too" meaning in addition to social security? I've never, ever seen anyone in the business world (or anyone outside of fringe libertarian circles, really) advocate the abolition of social security. Source?


*sigh* Plenty of sources around if you look:

http://www.nasi.org/usr_doc/Kimberly_Morgan_Paper_09_19_06.pdf

http://www.dove777.com/socialsecurity.html

 

Let's look at this logically okay? Can we agree, according to polls, that the majority of Americans wish to leave Social Security alone, and would prefer to increase payroll taxes instead?

Source: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/31/1001269/-What-the-American-People-really-Want--according-to-a-few-Polls

So why would conservatives go against what over half of the population want? Surely it would be a disaster come the next election....

Can we agree that nothing you've posted shows anyone actually calling for the end of social security? No business leader has called for the end of the program, and contrary to that conspiratorial bunch of shit at the second link very few Republicans have even made a serious attempt at tackling the kinds of serious reform that would be needed to make it sustainable. Even the biggest Tea Party types in office tend to hem and haw whenever you bring up entitlement reform because, yes, entitlements are extremely popular. But being extremely popular does not make them good programs.

This past year social security reached the tipping point and now pays out more than it takes in. This wasn't expected to happen until 2016, but the government was yet again overly optimistic about how their own Ponzi schemes work. The Democrats may indeed be on sound political ground by screaming and hollering every time someone talks about even touching entitlements, but that isn't leadership. I strongly suspect anyone under 30 will be cursing their very names one day.