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How did this turn into which systemis more powerful lol. Anyway as far as the dvd thing goes ms could give the nod and have some games actualy have to use a hard drive. Now I know what some people will say but what about the core gamers. Well how many actually have the core and just use memory cards and havent gone out and bought a hard drive? You know those cards dont hold many games so id say not many just use them. Ms could alos bring the price down for there hard drive to anywhere around the $65 mark for the 20 and $100 for the 120 or somewhere around there. That would solve the disk space problem and prelong the life cycle of the 360. By the time this rolls around the 360 will probably be around 199, 249, 349. Not saying it will happen but not a bad option