Is marriage the right of each and every citizen?

[outlawauron]

Kasz216 said:

Zlejedi said:

Kasz216 said:

Both Yes and No.

Marriage isn't a right, however it does become a right the moment government decides to use it as the method to delvier benefits to a committed pair of individuals or uses it to establish familial rights.

As it is now, i'd say marriage is a right in the US.

If the US dropped all tax breaks, and legal benefits for married spouses, I would then say it is NOT a right.

Easy solution... change government marriage to civil unions... for everyone.

Nope.

Marriages receive additional benefits because they are responsible for education and upbringing of future generations.

 

If lack of gay marriages is discrimination than so is existance of men/women only toilets.

Bullshit.

I'm getting married in 4 years, when I get married, I will not have kids.  I will still get marriage benefits.

Gay couples who adopt, or who otherwise have kids (Having kids in a straight relationship, getting a divorce them living with a gay person) do not get marriage benefits.

If marriage benefits are for raising kids, then they should be stripped from married couples and instead be given to people... who have kids.

Which again, does include gay people.

and to follow your logic... I guess if lack of gay marriage isn't discrimination white and black only toliets aren't discrimination... right?

 

Edit: And to head off the "You could have kids!" arguement.  Nobody goes through infertility testing before they get there marriage benefits even though there are a number of men and women who can't have children.... and no woman loses her marriage benefits once she hits menopause.

This isn't so much about gay couples, but I thought you got extensive tax benefits for the adoption of a child regardless of martial situation....