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Mr Khan said:
Xen said:
Mr Khan said:
Xen said:
^What if it does more bad than good?

Was that at me, or at Sapphi?

The decision for independence is usually not one arrived at haphazardly, and usually the debate about whether independence will do more bad than good is one resolved by the people making the resolution.

States that resolve to have their own independence usually mean that they have a strong sense of national identity, which generally leads to a functional state. So long as their nationalism does not take on radical or racist intentions, independence is preferable to not, so long as the people will it

You (damn I hope Sapphi is not actually typing a reply for me!)

And to be frank, I don't see the good that has came out of this. Yes, the balkans are extremely multicultural and yes they can't always live with eachother, but it seems that this has created more inconveniences and trouble than good. It sounds very nice and ideological on paper, but sadly too much problems always emerge.

South Sudan, however, has the correct idea.

Nationalism can lead to problems, i know (i seem to recollect that Croatia recently had riots because one of their generals or something was convicted for warcrimes during the Bosnian Civil War, and the people disliked that fact), and free states should be suppressed if they would be a danger (like Chechnya at this point, which by now is so married to radical Islam that a free Chechnya would just be the next Taliban Afghanistan), but generally you trend towards less social strife, even if it may not be for the best of reasons in some cases (like how a lot of Serbs probably moved out of the outlying republics as Yugoslavia disintegrated)

Self-determination is the prime right of all peoples, but that should be taken responsibly and only when the people to be freed would adhere to standards of human rights that we can all respect

We mirror the general idea, then.

Though we seem to see Kosovo quite differently. But since I'm so drained from today, I just can't think I can discuss that.