Degausser said:
Hyruken said: Personally i think this means Vita is in serious trouble in the UK. To the point where it might actually be dead on arrival.
For those that don't know Europe and more specific UK are having to pay £279.99 for the Vita. That is $455.
With the 3DS getting "a third off in Europe" would put it at around £120 or $196. Still more then what the US pay but a lot better then it's current £180 price. By the time Vita comes out here 3DS could be sold by some places for around £100.
Sony will have to justify why people from the UK would have to pay double what the 3DS cost to get a Vita. Especially when if you look at it you can get an xbox for £130 and a PS3 for £180. Meaning a Vita will cost almost as much as a 360 and PS3 COMBINED. Only around £100 less then buying an okish 3d tv. Almost double the price of an Ipod touch, around the same price as an iphone 3gs, almost the same price as a Samsung R730 laptop, only £20 less then a Samsung P1000 Galaxy Tab and so on and so on.
The point is there are a lot of products around that price range. A lot of portable devices that in some regards can do a lot more then what a Vita can. The main reason to get a Vita is obviously the games. But other then Uncharted there is not much coming to it. Sure you can talk about games like LittleBigPlanet and Mod racers but nobody is going to put almost £300 on the counter so they can play those games. You might as'well just buy a PS3 and save yourself £100.
It is a lot of money and i think what has happened to the 3DS is what will happen to the Vita in UK.
I will pick up a DS when it hits the £99 point because at that point it will have a few decent games i.e mario land, Mario Kart, Kid Icarus and that new Resident Evil game. But i won't pick up a Vita until it is more in line with the US prices. It will cost $250 in US on release. In £ that would be £150. Meaning in US your getting it almost half price in comparison to everywhere else.
Setting the price so high in the UK could seriously damage it. People won't pay that here. They didn't pay £499 when the PS3 launched and it then got a huge price cut just a few months later. Since then it has always been 2nd to the 360. The same pattern could happen again but this time with the 3DS.
A £120 3ds will murder a £279 Vita in the UK. |
Those numbers are worrying... but thus far it's no different to the 3DS. For starters, the wifi-only Vita pricepoint is £229 (Why didnt you mention this?)... which coicidently, is the same price the 3DS announced (I use this term lightly.. .seeing as neither a 3DS or Vita UK pricepoints were ever announced) for in the UK (If you check my post history you can see me ranting about it). But the reality was, the 3DS didn't cost that much, why? It was simply the retailers upping the price at launch to get as much profit from pre-orders... within a few weeks the price came down to £180 and is now as low as £160 with a game, even without this official price cut, which should take it a bit lower still.
European retail has always worked different to the USA - with another example of this trend being that my friends pre-order PS3 at launch was £600 (Sucks to be him). Within a week it was £425 on the same website, and a month some retailers had gone down to £350 - in Europe the retailers set the price and it nowadays leads to crazy pre-order prices as the simple fact is stupid people pay it.
The Vita won't stay at £229 for longer then a month and I fully expect I'll be buying mine 2 months after launch, bundled with a game or SD card for £170 maximum.
(I'm going off UK prices and stuff, I'm fairly sure the situation is very similiar in Europe (Seeing as otherwise people would just import it lol) but yeah the very basis of your argument is flawed).
And to probably save myself a reply, I've attatched a link showing HMV as one of the retilaers who began 3DS preorders at £229:
http://www.t3.com/news/nintendo-3ds-uk-release-date-and-price-announced?=52615
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Sorry but who in there right mind would pay £230 for a portable device that has no wifi?
Don't get me wrong i am sure Vita will have some decent games but even the most bog standard of phones these days has wifi included. It isn't something that is expensive to include, deffinatly not £60 expensive.
If your paying £230 you expect all the features to be included in it for that price.
As i said before if people are buying it then just for the games then who will pay £230 just to play Uncharted/LBP and Mod Racers? You might aswell buy a PS3 and get the new U3 game!