PS3 10% Ahead of 360 This Year Worldwide, 'Strong Contender' to Take Second Place

[Michael-5]

Dragon_Lord said:

Michael-5 said:
Look them up on VGChartz! Every game you mentioned has been released in Japan and has small sales figures. PAL is the region of EMEAA, every game you mentioned was released there.

I never called PSN laggy, don't try to brand me.

What evidence do you have to support this psn is less laggy claim? Do you have anything? Even personal experience? Have you played a PS3/360 in Europe, Africa, Brazil, or Japan or talked to someone about it? I have because I was shocked to play people in Africa and Japan in Halo and Lost Planet, and I've never had a bad connection with European servers on either console (except with GTA for PS3). You can't just make wild accusations without reason.

What I know is XBL has more active users then PSN at a given time. There are about 3x as many people playing Call of Duty on 360 then on PS3 at any given time. If XBL was laggier then PSN, or noticably inferior, why would PSN host less matches? There are roughly as many copies of Call of duty sold on both consoles, and they both have a similar user base.

As for 360 being on par again YoY. 1. There will be a price cut. 2. 360 Slim effect subdued after a couple months, why wouldn't 360 sales be close come September/October even without a price cut?

Anyone who does any research knows the 360 arcade is a joke so no your wrong simple as that. What is this based off? Why is the Arcade 360 a joke? I still play on my 14GB original model 360, and I have yet to max out the hard drive. For 360, you don't need to install games to play them (some PS3 games require an install, like Heavy Rain). Save files on most games take up a couple megabytes at most, and absolute worst case, if you want to get some DLC, you can always plug in a thumb drive. 8GB is $10 right? Your opinion =/= the worlds.

However I do agree, if the PS3 gets a $100 price cut, and so does the 250GB 360, I think the 4GB 360 will come down to $130, and not $100. The whole purpose of the Arcade model is to be the cheapest console on the market, it only has to come below the Wii's current price.

"making unfair comparisons is all you people do on this site." You don't have to follow everyone. Set an example. The reason why there are fanboy wars is because people on both sides over eggagerate their claims, and twist the truth. I try to be fair on both sides, and trust me I've seen at least 5 people get banned debating on me because they were over the top agressivly biased. Don't become like that.

As for no extended warrenty in regions outside NA, I never contested your point, why would I bring it up? I know Microsoft offered an extended warrenty throughout most of Europe, North America, and I believe Japan as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Middle East, Africa and Asia didn't get that treatment. I agree with you that the extended warrenty didn't cover all RRoD issues, heck probably not even all of the US cases (I had to bitch to get my HDMI model, but I kept my old hard drive). RRoD was also a bigger issue then YLoD, and this is one reason why I will never get a first gen Microsoft or Playstation product again.

I know alot of 360 exclusives didn't get localized to alot of places, I was just lazy about looking them up, used wiki, so get me a complete list and I'll point out the ones which weren't there are several, it's been since the 360s launch since I brought it up I don't remember the specific ones and vgchartz is more hassle then wiki 

If you don't want to get branded don't act like cattle among cattle 

I'm not the service is subpar there, go there and play, of course nothing I do can convince you of it since you love MS so much, I've heard pretty much everyone I know or anyone I ever talked to in anyway that ever said was from that region say it so your word means alot less then theirs 

COD is more popular on 360 then ps3 since you know it's only advertised for 360, go overall or keep your mouth shut, and ps3 has more exclusives to play too so many they are just playing better games instead of COD seriously how the hell could you think thats a fair comparison? 

subdued and stopped are two different things unless/until 360 gets a price cut it's down yoy simple as that, there's no reason it would go up yoy 

4 gb is alot less then 14, you know halo? MSes flag franchise you can't play some multiplayer on an arcade because it requires an install, and xbl is where the only good 360 games are at, the arcade model is so people think the 360 is cheaper and then end up paying more for a smaller harddrive hwne they figure out it's not enough especially if your 360s dvd drive starts wearing down or scratching disks which is extremely common 

The last guy who made a fair comparsion got flamed and banned 

YLOD wasn't even an issue, it was normal failrate, the 360s failrate was extremely widespread and since RROD appears with a general hardware failure it was the most common, but sometimes the light didn't go on and alot of dvd drives broke, and I didn't say nowhere besides USA I said almost nowhere besides NA, I know UK got it, and japan I think got it late but there are so few there doesn't make much of a dif anyways why would people buy a 360 a hardware with a failrate of 50+ that charges for online and didn't have a decent warrenty? The reason 360 sales suck in places NA is because MS sucks outside of NA, and game wise they seem to just be sucking lately

Complete BS on Microsoft not localizing their games. You can't even mention 1 game! I can mention multiple from all consoles, and when I count MS has the least. Nintendo obviously hasn't localized at least a dozen well rated Japanese games like The Lost Story, Disaster: Day of Crysis, XenoBlade, Pandoras Tower, etc. Sony hasn't localized these games outside of Japan to name a few: Konami Baseball franchise (Don't know the english name), Tales of Vesperia, several Gundam Wing exclusives, Afrika (No PAL version),Initial D racing franchise, Gran Turismo concept demos, Metal Gear Online, and there are likely a bunch of JRPG's I can't pronounce. 360 is lacking Espangula 2 and Monster Hunter frontier, and I believe some games like Mass Effect 1 were localized in Japan about a year later, but thats what Japan does to us, so it's fine.

You are putting words in my mouth, that is why I said don't brand me. I NEVER SAID PSN IS LAGGIER THEN XBL!

Stop trying to insult, and debate every single damn point, and don;t critisize me when you make up stuff and claim I said it.

No XBox 360 game REQUIRES an install. You can play just fine with a 4GB 360, so long as you don't download any map packs. If you do, you can always get a thumb drive. 8GB for $10. That makes 12GB total. I still use my 14GB model, and I have yet to max it out, and I have DLC for about a dozen games (but most of my DLC is disk based).

As for Call of Duty. If that's unfair, what online games are PS3 users playing? Killzone has about the same active users in a month as Halo Reach has in a day, and Call of Duty scales 3 to 1 for 360. I believe Call of Duty:Black Ops and Halo: Reach on 360 surpass all of PSN's active online users for a given month.

RRoD failrate was aproximatly 33%. YLoD was 10%. Don't spread BS, do your research.

Everyone knows this, everyone knows that. You're arguements are as thin as paper, and you call me biased. You make claims based on your own opinion and present it as fact.

Also 360 has more exclusives, go and count them on wiki if you must. there are over 100 exclusives on the 360 and something like 60 on the PS3. This is not including console exclusives which get a PC port. In fact, the 360 has released more exclusive games on an annual basis since the launc of the PS3. 2011 is the first year where the PS3 has more exclusives, don't try to make it appear as if it's always been this way. There are also more announce exclusives on the 360 for 2012 onward, so this may just be a 1 year thing.

I realize there is no debating with you. You have no reason to boost the claims you are making, and you make all your claims off your own opinion. Go look some of this stuff, and please tell me the titles MS isn't localizing in PAL. You said they localize the least games of the bunch, go and proove it!

Don't make claims without reason, and look up some of your more obviously wrong points (MS localizes less games, pfff).