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RolStoppable said:
Lostplanet22 said:

Meh that is bullshit, it is just the J-gamers who are in a state of denial, a lot of them complain about those reviewers and at the same time they complain that the new J-games are not the best ones in the franchise...

This is basically what a lot of J-gamers said:

Tekken 6 not the best in the franchise, same for Soul Calibur, Same for Star Ocean the Last Hope,  Same for Beautifull Katamari, same for the latest Silent Hill games, same for Final Fantasy XIII, Same for Dead Or alive 4, Same for Virtua Fighter 5, Same for the latest Ace Combat, Same for devil May Cry 4, Same for the latest Castlevania, Same for the latest Sonic games, Same for Final Fantasy XIV, Same for Ridge Racer, and I could go on but when a reviewer doesn't give a good score to J-game it basically comes down that Western Reviewers are biased.  Their are simply not that many Japanese game franchises that got a sequel this generation that ended up better than his prequels... especially if you wouldn't count Nintendo games...    Without looking it up the only game franchises that improved (and that I remember) are so far Dynasty Warriors 7, Tales franchise (Tales of vesperia) and Metal Gears solid 4 (but that one depends who you ask I guess)

Sure, Japanese developers haven't exactly made the best games in their careers this generation, but a lot of flaws in Western games seem to get deliberately overlooked. When you have games getting high review scores, but also getting patches already upon release, then there's something fishy. This coupled with the fact that the same kind of disappointment can be found among fans of Western games too (like for example, Mass Effect being a step down from KotoR) makes it look like there is a double standard at play within the gaming media.

Are you sure you don't mean Dragon Age 2? Because I didn't saw a huge amount of complaining about Mass Effect 2.  Especially on Vgchartz, it is possible that I missed it.  Their are some complaints but that is like the people who complain about Persona 4.  Sure they prefered Mass Effect or Persona 3 but they still call it's sequel a great game.

I am not against patches because in 99% of the cases they are not really necessary or just add something in the game.  it is just that games like Fallout 3 new Vegas needed one that it feels like every game get released broken on the market, some j-games could use patches aswell they just stay broken (Tales of Graces is an obviously offender)