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Player1x3 on 24 July 2011
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again you still ignore the majority of the post.

and its very clear that you dont know what Christianity teaches because it teaches the exact opposite of that (the bolded)

also in no shape or form do Christian believe or tought that Jesus will bring mansions or cadallacs. but it does teach people that their body is their temple, and it must be taken care of, that means good healthcare.

furthermore, when i said universities, i should have been more specific, as liberals tend to give things to classes like "humanities" and classes that typicall has "studies" in their name. those close have little to nothing to do with research like curing disseases


Christianity doesn't teach the exact opposite of the bolded.  Christianity teaches that the lifestyles of gays is displeasing to its God and that at the very least gays should be cured rather than allowed to live as they see fit, that people follow a different God that they're going to Hell, and The Bible certainly teaches that men are supposed to be the heads of their households and their wives are supposed to be their faithful and submissive helpmates.

Billy Graham, one of the most influential Christian Ministers in the history of the US said that in the afterlife Christians would be driving Cadillas on Streets of Gold.  And Fundamentalist Christians do tend to believe that we are living in the End Times when if they're faithful to The Bible and its teachings then Jesus will very much bring them all the celestial wonders they could ever dream up after a time of great catastrophe for everyone else.

In the era we live in, which happens to be long after much of The Bible was found to be very prejudicial and to basically endorse utter crap like stoning people that are different from others, classes in the humanities are very important as they do demonstrate to people how they should get along with others in the world they live in today ie. we should embrace and be tolerant  of the differences that people have rather than condeming them or trying to change their preferred sexual orientations


yes it does teach the opposite. you said that the bible teaches people to hate gay people, thats patently false. and yes, the Bible teaches that unrepentant sinners will go to hell. and it also teaches free will, so if people feel like leading sinnfull lives, that s their proragative.

and yes the bible teaches that second part, so what? it also says for husband to love their wives sacrificially, honor your wife, as they are the weaker vessel (the pretense for what you said), and to submit to one another..

for the second paragraph, link? anyway that is a metaphore, you know a comparison, that does not use like or as, and since when does Billy Grahm speek for all Christians?

Does "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" ring a bell for you? and now your changing arguments about giving to universities (while ignoring that this is only a small part of what liberals give to). and if you were following the discussion early, you would see that Universities are the polar opposite of tollerant

Universities are very tolerant.  It's true they might not be so tolerant of Christian beliefs, but you know, that's mainly because of the fact that except for a handful of passages in The Bible like the one you quote above Christian beliefs are complete and utter bs.


I think more people would agree that your beliefs are complete and utter bullshit, not the Christian ones


Well, that's because most people are stupid (80% of US citizens believe in a God that there's no evidence for -- http://www.cnsnews.com/node/65396 ) and that's why it would be so easy to set up a movement similar to Fascism in the US.

Most of the world believes in God/s and its funny how you think everyone is stupid but you and people with your beleifs, like you are any better than the people you hate so much. What makes you su superior than everyone else,except your irrational wishful thinking that makes you believe so????

As a matter of fact we have already have a movement similar to fascism in the US, and it is Fundamentalist ChristianityEverything that is fundamentalist is fascist. And that goes for fundamentalist atheists like yourself. You are IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM better than fundamentalist Christians or any other fundamentalist for that matter because it causes and supports discrimination against gays and other minority religious groupsjust like you discriminate and hate Christians, right? So again, what makes your beleifs  any less of a fundamentalist thanchristian fundamentalists? (wanting to change them to prevent them from going to an imaginary Hell is a sign of discrimination and constantly insulting christians, (ALL OF THEM ON GLOBAL BASIS) isnt a sign of dicrimination???  as it shows that the Fundamentalist Christians have little to no respect for the ideas of othersOH MY GOD, DID YOU JUST HEAR YOURSELF SAYING THAT???? YOU, YOU (!!!) OUT OF ALL PEOPLE IN THIS PLANET ARE SAYING THAT OTHERS HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE IDEAS OF OTHERS!!! Sweet mother of God, am I reading this right? GO READ BACK ALL OF YOUR POSTS AND THAN COME BACK AND SAY THAT !!!! You are the biggest hypocrate I've ever seen in my history of existance. or for the way they would like to live their livesChristianity is the most liberal religion out there (Buddism isnt really a religion) and again, you are basing your judgement EXCLUSEVLY off of fundamentalist. Why dont you spend some time actually reading the tachings and message of Jesus Christ and less time spewing ignorant hate and lies?? and that has no place in a country built on freedom and justice (and justice includes social justice) for all)Yeah, you are the one to say something like that :/; and it  prevents many of its followers from really doing anything to really improve their lives like the fast foodFast food improves your life? Now, thats news to me and other poor workers that really believe its teachings and that actively work against or don't push for things that would have been to their own interestAnd some atheists hate and abbandon their families because they beleive in God. Should I now judge the whole group of people based on the acts of some deluded individuals? No, because I am not like you.( http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47498.html and http://blog.locustfork.net/2011/06/why-do-working-class-people-vote-against-their-economic-interests/ )  like a tax plan that taxes all of those making $250,000 a year 10% more so that the lower classes can have better services than they're able to afford on their own.This is very connected to Christianity indeed /sarcasm end.  And they work against these things because, as their religion teaches them, they believe the end of the world is nigh Are you joking or are you just playing stupid as hell? Where the Hell doesnt the Bible says that ''the end is nigh'' stop making up stuff to promote your own hatred, its pathetic and disgusting, you truely are a very dangerous person. May God have mercy on your soul and that Jesus is going to come back soon to alleviate all of their illsSo now taking stuff out of context as well, huh? Damn, you you are on fire today, arent you? which is the type of thinking that the slave system that Christianity is has already engendered many times throughout history,Its not Christianity's fault that people understand their message false and abuse it. and Christianity, as a direct descendent of the religion used to keep the slaves in line in Ancient Egyptwhat the hell are you talking about? Christianity came from Judism, do you even know what Christianity is? The cross is taken from ancient Egypt, but the Christian religion itself has nothing to to with ancient Egypt. Like I said in my other post you ignored for some reason,  üagansymbolics are present in abrahamic religions, everything else pagan isnt and much as a caste system by the Hebrews to keep the undesirables of their time in line under the thumb of their priestly classesActually, Christianity emerged from the teachings of person Called Jesus Christ of Nazareth. You heard of him?, and by Constantine as a way of keeping the Roman Empire in charge of things without having to worry about attacks from barbarian since when you have a system in place for controlling other people's thoughts you can control their actions much more easily than you can by merely trying to force them to stay in lineAnd this is supposed to be a reason why Christiany is bad how again? I am not sure I follow (  http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread678908/pg1 ); does create a ready made system for keeping the poor working class in line Yes, sure ''keeping people in line'' no such problems or soultion to such problems came before christianity, right. /end sarcasm especially if the public education system is ever thrown out by the Right Wing idealogues that want to attack itBecause left wing people are usually very quite about thier beleifs and are totally tolerant of anyone who disagress with them, right? ( http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/179079-republican-war-science-education-progress-general-working.html ).

So, yes, we do have a fascist movement in this country already. We also have fundamentalist atheism, such as yourself. Fundamentalist Christianity (it's just as fascistic today as it was when it caused nearly 100 people in Salem Massachusetts to lose their lives in 1692 and during the Middle Ages when it resulted in the deaths of 100,000 peopleAlready responded to this thousands of times by now, im sick and tired of answering to this agan.And its not like Muslims killed any Christians in Balkans, Iberia and Middle East right? The christians are to bame !!! in Europe from a wide variety of different backgrounds including other Christians that believed a bit differently from the mainstream Christians of that time, and that was largely emulated by Hitler during his exterminations of Jews in World War IIHitler was an atheist by the way. All people around him confirmed that. He only used Christianity to decieve public against the Jews. He like many other people before him did the same. But you choose to blame Christianity instead of people who abused it for power, because it will further reinforce your hatred towards it http://www.affirmation.org/proclamation_on_the_family/hidden_nazi_mentality.shtml and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jews_in_the_First_Crusade  ), and it is waiting for Conservatism in this country to gain more power so that it can gain more control over those that believe differently And people like you wait for libealism to gain more power so you can openly go against religion on the national level ( http://www.onenewsnow.com/Journal/editorial.aspx?id=1281490 ) ,   and probably as always much to those individuals that choose to do so's detriment (already thanks (i'm being sracastic with that)Couldnt understand, please speak more clearly largely to the influence of Christians, gays aren't free to get married like any other citizen in the USMarrige is strongly connected to the church, church has the say over who they wanna marry. if they are agisnt it, so  be it. Besides, marige is a tradition between a man and a woman.  ( http://www.fatalistic.net/kouri/discrim.html ) and being an abortion clinic doctorYet, the Bible says nothing against abortion. So  ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence ) or belonging to Islam,and in your case belonging to Christianity another miniority religious group, or going with the fact that there is no evidence for God's existence at all and being an Atheist insteadIn your case, a person with different views on the world and going with the fact that there is no evidence against God's existance at all and being a Theist. See, you are no better than them at all. (  http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sick-of-hearing-christians-claim-religious-discrimination ) makes one a target for the wrath of Fundamentalists .

As Sinclair Lewis said , “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. "  Which is a pretty good summation of the three headed beast composed of the Tea Party, Social Conservatism, and Fundamentalist Christianity as they are in America todayThey are no wrose than your type of fundamentalism (http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/634767/the_rise_of_the_teavangelicals..._it_wasn't_as_sudden_as_you_think/ ),   And as Bill Maher says even if you're right that more people might think my ideas are the bs ones and that the Christian ones are the right ones (even though there's no evidence at all to suggest that they are correct reason and tolerance suggest so), that doesn't make my views wrong (  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jdtLTIzZWo ) .

And another tip, for ya. Use dots at the end of sentence, also use paragraphs, instead of wall of text and for Gods sake USE COMMA. Your whole post is basically one gigantic sentence.