Confused white guy attacks government building in Norway with massive bomb and shoot up a youth camp - at least 87 dead.

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Kasz216 said:

SvennoJ said:

MrBubbles said:

Kasz216 said:

Mummelmann said:

Kasz216 said:

Seriously though... stupid political arguments aside. (Which i can't even believe are being made.)

How was there no one with a gun to shoot this guy after the first 10 or so victims?

I mean, there were no armed guards in this political kids retreat?

That just seems reckless.

This is Norway. These things don't happen here, nothing of this sort ever has. Besides stabbings out on town and a murder case now and then, there haven't been hostile actions like these since WWII in Norway.

Its different here, not everyone owns a gun. Do you send armed escorts with your kids to summer camp or summer school in the US? This is kind of the same thing. This summer camp has been going on for about 40 years without a single incident, the same with the retreats of the other youth wings of other parties, no one could ever have seen this coming and the need for armed guards and police would have seemed ludicrous to anyone.

And now we have the "honor" of housing the worst spree killer (with guns) in the history of the world... Unfathomable, to say the least.

I'd like to think there is one security guard with a gun... or at least someone near by.

I know there is at schools.

Spree Killers are an eventuality, that it hasn't happened in norway for a long time is probably just a testament to the small population size.

 

Nobody had a cell phone?

I'm just... confused how so many people could of been shot.

large group of people.  very small island.

 

the dots around the large building are all tents

It took the police 45 minutes to get there, which is not surprising if you look up the area in googlemaps.

Utøya, 8647, Hemnes, Nordland, Norway, Very remote sparsely populated area.

I would rather have stricter gun control then posting security guards with guns everywhere.

Except the probem with that is... when someone DOES have a gun... which criminals always will... they can do whatever the hell they want until the police can get out there.

Like... say this very case.

 

I mean, i'd rather people not comit crimes then have cops...

yet...

Except that would not have done jack shit. Even in the US, where people are allowed to carry guns, there has been almost no massacres stopped because someone had a gun and decided to shoot the perpetrator. Usually they end up shooting themselves once they realize they are more or less done. Statistically speaking, all that freedom to carry a gun does is provide nut cases with guns (shit, in Georgia you can sell used guns as long as the person you are selling it to provides you with an ID they are over 18 and SAY they are licensed, no proof of it needed), it allows for a proliferation of arms due to there being demands and the proliferation just leads to more crime using guns, and finally, it does jack shit on the self-defense side when it REALLY matters. Basically, "this gun is for defense" is a whole load of shit when it comes to massacres like these. I would also LOVE to hear the argument about knives being deadly too, because I doubt someone would be able to kill 80 people with a knife.

OT: This is terrible. People like these shouldn't even be considered human. I say he shuold just be tortured and executed.