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sapphi_snake said:

Gonna make some comments about your links (also read the original sources):

- "sluts" > he said "talk slut", and mentioned what that meant. He wasn't judging her based on her sexual conduct (which would have been a sexist and misogynistic thing to do);

- "cunts" > the problem with this is? Saying that calling a woman a c**t is sexist is a little overkill, don't you think? It's definately rude, and shows unsophistication, but I don't see why it's sexist;

- "gooks" > this one's valid;

- "coconuts" > He claims he did not know what that this term had that connotation, and he was using it as synonimous to "fruity" or "bananas". Now we'll never know the truth, but it's certainly a valid alternative. This one's questionable;

- "monkeys" > This is just simply taking quotes totally out of context. The article's author was describing how he thinks the black republican candidate is seen by the whites in the same party, and what his role in that party is (considering the ideology, policies etc.). He's criticising the black canditate for degrading himself for the delight of white conservative racists "because it pays so well". I think this is by far the most pathetic example of trying to present liberals as "racists" I've ever seen.

Also, when comparing conservative and liberal ideologies, it's quite clear which one is inherently racist. You're trying to paint liberals as hypocrites, but you'd need to back that up with scientific data, not some random examples (which are quite misleading and quite pathetic attempts by right wing media).

Regarding your second paragraph, I think you're underestimating the variety of speech that can lead to violence. It's enough to say "black people want to rape our women and kill our children" for lynch mobs to pop up. You don't need to add "we must kill them", for the effect to be the same. I do agree that if a particular information is true, it should not be considered hate speech. If all rapes were commited by muslims, then it should be noted (BTW, Norwegian men from Oslo should recieve some sort of medal or something). I think that the news report was very well put together (much more so than it would've been in the US, especially if it were reported by Fox News), and not trying to encourage violence or prejudice. Only people who support PCness and are irrational (or anti-PC activists) would make a big deal about this.

Oh? Which ideology is inherently racist, then? (I know which one you'll say, but I'll need to see some scientific data to back that up, please. Haha, j/k! I'll settle for scientific data that hate crime laws - or, indeed, speech codes of any sort - have ever accomplished anything positive, ever.)

You're REALLY reaching to make this stuff not to be exactly what it appears to be, though. A guy calls a woman a slut. "Well, he said 'talk slut'. That's totally different, somehow." And I really can't think of an uglier or more derisive term for a woman than "cunt", which basically reduces her to a sex organ. If that's not sexist, pretty much nothing is. Despite the fact that "coconut" is a very well known term and the fact that white leftists routinely call non-white non-leftists traitors to their race (a pretty racist concept in itself), I guess we should let Donny Douche slide, too. After all, every lefty deserves every benefit of the doubt since they don't subscribe to an "inherently racist" ideology.