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superchunk on 21 July 2011
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RolStoppable said:
superchunk said:

Wii was rampantly successful, you're right. However, it also failed at the same time.

I should not be forced to buy another console to play all the games I want. 3rd party AAA should be available on everyone's setup, simply because they want as much as possible as a return and if all consoles had enough of a simularity in base capabilities, that woudl have happened.

The only reason HD Twins userbase was equal and then grew larger to that of Wii wasn't because Wii stopped making simple games, but because they never gained the additional great 3rd party games.

People will by Nintendo for Nintendo and its uniqueness... they will come in massive waves for the right mass market game... aka Wii Sports, Wii Fit, NSMBWii, MKWii, etc.... however, Nintendo should strive to make sure they don't seek entertainmnet from its direct rivals as well. That means gaining those AAA 3rd party games. Again, I would never have bought a PS3 had Assassin's Creed, Batman, equal CoD, BFBC2, and others had been offered on Wii. I could have dealt with lower graphical output, so long as the game was essentially the same. However, 3rd parties didn't event attempt that as the cost it would take to make an engine to properly downscale the game wasn't worth it. Instead you got CoD like downgrades with big missing features on top of lower graphics.

WiiU hopefully will rectify that. It will be lower spec'd than the other two next gen hardware, but hopefully more like PS2 was. This way it can be a rampant success to the nth degree... not just a leader.

I wasn't talking about simple games. If you remember the NES, then you know that its games didn't stay the same over the course of its lifecycle. They started out simple with most games not even scrolling and at the end you had in comparison massive games that scrolled in all directions. Those games built on the foundation the earlier games established. This didn't happen on the Wii, but if it had happened you wouldn't have felt the need to get a PS3 for AC, Batman and others, because you would have already been playing a new Zelda, Kid Icarus, a proper Metroid and more.

I know you, man. If Nintendo offers adventurous games, then you will pick theirs and not third party ones that require you to buy additional hardware. This is where Nintendo really dropped the ball this generation. Instead of games that built on the foundation of the Wii spirit, they decided to release Gamecube era style games like Super Mario Galaxy 2 and MOM. And you know that the Gamecube and its games didn't exactly set the market on fire. What makes the problem worse is that these Gamecube-like games require longer development cycles with Zelda being the biggest culprit nowadays. So Nintendo did not only put out the wrong games, but less games in general.

Ok, I get what you're saying and do agree. I do admit that had Nintendo put out IPs that were similar to AC, Batman, etc, then yes I would of been satisfied and probably not bought a PS3. This is very true. Afterall there really only exists one company that I will always buy and that is Nintendo. The others I buy out of lack of a Nintendo game that fits that need.

Nintendo currently does not have first party IPs that fit AC and Batman's roles... however, I am glad I got to play them as well as Uncharted as they were all good games and I do hope WiiU gets these third parties along with thier fantastic first party so I simply have more choice for my definite purchase.