Barozi said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
Barozi said:
Haha you serious ?
Kinect is selling ~45k every week. Move around 15k.
Even if all people caring about Gears and Halo already have a 360, I asked you why you expect it to attract less consumers than the PS3 even though most of the games coming out for it this holiday are also sequels or games with a not as high selling potential as other blockbusters. There is no software at the moment that will drive hardware sales to unseen grounds.
But what you probably also didn't know. 80.000 people bought a 360 CoD:BO bundle last year (or was it MW2 in the year before ?). Anyway apparently not all people that are interested in CoD bought a console yet. Every big game makes an impact on hardware sales. Even if there are already games of the same series available on the same platform.
You forgot or just didn't know that the holidays are dominated by casual gamers. That is the reason why the Wii was still alive and why Kinect was such a huge success last year.
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Where are you getting your sales for move, it doesn't have a game bundled like kinect and everytime Sony releases numbers the gap between move and kinect is less, and like I keep saying ps3 has alot more good exclusives, people have been waiting for a ps3 price drop to buy it and play it all the 360 has is halo and gears, where there is over a dozen ps3 retail exclusives comming out this year alone, no one of them outsells gears or halo (due to no competition and massive amounts of advertising) but together it gives people alot more reasons to get a system not to mention blu ray thats why a price drop will favor ps3 and I think you forgot that despite kinects launch ps3 tied it in shipments last quater and kinect is going to be weaker not stronger this year and 360 has less games comming out and ps3 has more, so why do you think 360 will outsell ps3 this holiday when it didn't last and had several more things in it's favor last?
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Quite simple. Move is bundled with Sports Champions in the US.
Sports Champions sells around 10-15k per week. 1k in EMEAA and even less in Japan. So 10k in the US. Coincidence ?
Now look at Kinect Sports. It has an attach ratio of over 30% and just like Sports Champions it's the primary game for the device.
Meaning that there are approx. 3k Move sets sold in EMEAA, 1.5k Move sets sold in Japan and let's say 8.5k Sports Champion bundles and another 4.5k stand alone move sets this week.
CAN'T be much more than that. Wouldn't make any sense (given our VGC numbers are right).
Sony is counting every single Move as a sale and not the set Move+PlaystationEye, which is the only thing that counts when we try to define what device is more popular. (it's not more popular when one person buys 2 Moves)
I never said that 360 will sell more than PS3 this holiday season. I'm just saying that it can hold up very well. For every exclusive that will come out for PS3 there will be one Kinect game and I'm saying it again: In the holiday season, casual is king.
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It's only bundled in NA and you can get move without it so those sales are meaningless, and even if they weren't you said move sells 15k a week when it's NA at best, and move is stronger in other regions then NA and kinect is strongest in NA you are making random asssumptions that are almost definately inccorrect like assuming sports champion is going to be as popular for move as kinect sports is for kinect, so yes it can be more and yes it would make sense, and you forget pseye has been on the market for a long time, some people just need to buy a wand and have move so in other words it's not easily trackable and your numbers might as well came out of your ass because theats how accurate they are.
You are wrong about the exclusive things, ps3 has 15 normal retail, 2 move only and 16 psn, 360 has 2 normal retailer, 8 kinect only and 9 XBLA, Sony has alot more and most of what MS has is pure shovelware that won't sell well
