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Sales - WW up ! (9th July) - View Post

thx1139 said:
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Barozi said:
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Conegamer said:
No, Wii won't have another price cut. Should've said that...

I reckon the PS3 will sell much better than the 360, and slightly better than the Wii, this holiday.

Nothing to back it up. Just a hunch.


Sorry just dont see it. Price cuts will not be a differentiator since they will both have basically equivalent cuts. Not 1 single difference maker game like last year with GT5 to create any game based spike.  So dont see how PS3 could even come close to have a much better holiday then the 360 and the Wii wont take off like last year come November to close the gap. Those days are over.

Any equal price cut will favor the ps3, the 360 already has a model thats 100 less and ps3 is the one comming out with the games, 360s got next to nothing this year, there's no way 360 will sell the most this year 

haha you forgot that there is plenty of room for a price cut with the Kinect+360 bundles. Those WILL make a difference, especially in the holiday season.
and please don't tell me that Halo Remake, Gears of War 3 and Forza 4 + bunch of Kinect games like Kinect Sports Season 2 and Dance Central 2 will attract less consumers than Uncharted 3, Resistance 3 and Twisted Metal (and other games I may have forgotten to mention at this point).

Everyone who cares about halo or gears has a 360 already, and no I didn't forget it just doesn't matter, there's a reason kinect sales have been droping consistently it sucks people are starting to realize there aren't any good games for it, and from what I've seen there aren't going to be anytime soon, a price cut isn't going to change that, kinect is all MS has to drive sales and it's already running out of steam, and I know you forgot about the psmove, which sales are far more stable then kinects, Sony could cut the price of the move bundle and match it and again any equal price cut will favor the ps3 because it has more features and better games and is just a better piece of hardware

Haha you serious ?

Kinect is selling ~45k every week. Move around 15k.

Even if all people caring about Gears and Halo already have a 360, I asked you why you expect it to attract less consumers than the PS3 even though most of the games coming out for it this holiday are also sequels or games with a not as high selling potential as other blockbusters. There is no software at the moment that will drive hardware sales to unseen grounds.
But what you probably also didn't know. 80.000 people bought a 360 CoD:BO bundle last year (or was it MW2 in the year before ?). Anyway apparently not all people that are interested in CoD bought a console yet. Every big game makes an impact on hardware sales. Even if there are already games of the same series available on the same platform.

You forgot or just didn't know that the holidays are dominated by casual gamers. That is the reason why the Wii was still alive and why Kinect was such a huge success last year.

Where are you getting your sales for move, it doesn't have a game bundled like kinect and everytime Sony releases numbers the gap between move and kinect is less, and like I keep saying ps3 has alot more good exclusives, people have been waiting for a ps3 price drop to buy it and play it all the 360 has is halo and gears, where there is over a dozen ps3 retail exclusives comming out this year alone, no one of them outsells gears or halo (due to no competition and massive amounts of advertising) but together it gives people alot more reasons to get a system not to mention blu ray thats why a price drop will favor ps3 and I think you forgot that despite kinects launch ps3 tied it in shipments last quater and kinect is going to be weaker not stronger this year and 360 has less games comming out and ps3 has more, so why do you think 360 will outsell ps3 this holiday when it didn't last and had several more things in it's favor last? 

Well since MS hasnt release Kinect sales numbers since it hit 10 million back in March of course Move sales releases are going to show Move catching up. What happens next week when MS reports thier 4th qtr/annual report and Kinect sales jump?  Also when was the last time Sony releases those Move sales numbers and what were they?  Both 360 and PS3 have exclusives this year, except 360 exclusives are written off because many of they support Kinect so they couldnt possibly cause a casual person to pick up a 360.    None of the big titles for ANY console will make a dramatic shift in console sales. Those days are over for this generation.  Sure maybe a special edition bundle may sell some extra maybe even 100,000 to the collector types, but that is nothing in the whole competion thing at this point.  Finally Blu-Ray players are just to cheap to push someone to a PS3 any more and they will be cheaper this holiday.

So you have no source and just pulled the numbers out of your ass and it won't jump since we can track it via the bundled game, and 360s games are not good and won't sell alot aside from gears/forza/halo, and not because they are kinect but because they are shovelware and again it isn't any one thing it's everything together, games that someone wants, a blu ray player too, if ps3 drops to 200 even if 360 matches ps3 will sell alot more due to the line up and blu ray, and again why do you think 360 will sell more when they didn't last year holiday season and they had the odds stacked in their favor (a good year for games for MS a bad one for Sony, Kinect release at holidays with tons of advertisement (Kinect sales won't be equaled this holiday) and they even had the new redesign release that year and Sony still tied them now with a bad lineup for them a great one for Sony, Kinect sales slowed and probably a price drop which will go more in sony's favor, how will 360 outsell ps3 this year?