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sapphi_snake said:
Final-Fan said:

How is corn technology?  We've been growing corn since the Bronze Age.  It wasn't created by genetic engineering, just breeding.  It's just evolution, only with the human race putting its thumb on the scale for accelerated growth in the direction we like.  How does that make corn "not part of nature" if humans are part of nature? 

If there was a plant that we hadn't extensively bred -- that we just found and liked as is -- and grew THAT everywhere instead of corn, how would that be more natural? 

It's human manipulation, not nature doing it's business. That plant would be more "natural", because it's success is due to nature. That plant came to be on it's own, and can survive on it's own. In nature, lifeforms who cannot survive on their own die.

1.  So would you say that the crops that ants farm are also unnatural? 
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/04/farming-ants-update-their-crops.html

2.  But the "natural" crop still would be unsuited for many of the places we would be planting it, and die without us farming it.  So really it wouldn't be that much more "natural" than corn, which might still do well in some places even if we were not there to tend the crop. 



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