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sapphi_snake said:
Final-Fan said:
sapphi_snake said:

It's a universal human tendency. There are always exceptions, but these exceptions don't infirm the rule.

WRONG!  It's like you don't even understand your own point!  You are claiming that no one can judge the value because our judgment is impaired by the fact that we are human ourselves and biased; therefore if there are exceptions to this rule, there are humans, potentially including Kasz and myself and even yourself, that CAN fairly judge, it destroys your claim. 

You seem to be the one that's not understanding anything. The fact that are exceptions does not change the fact that the majority of humans think like that. Actually, only through education can you usually be able to acknowledge cultural relativism, and in the past not even the most intelligent of people would acknowledge it (it's a much more recent pehnomon).

Look, it's very simple:  either there are people that can get past the assumption of superiority, or there aren't.  WHICH IS YOUR CLAIM?  Do they exist or don't they?  I know you've implied an answer, but I want you to pin it down and accept the ramifications to your other claim so please answer explicitly.

[edit:  I had had the idea that you'd claimed that no one could evaluate and judge cultures objectively, without automatically considering their own culture superior.  But upon review you may have only said that cultures have always viewed themselves (here you would be anthropomorphizing the dominant viewpoint of people in the culture) as superior.  So, instead of the above question, first please indicate if you had claimed the latter or the former; and, if the former, then please answer the preceding question; but, if only the latter, then please disregard the question because it is irrelevant.  Thank you.] 



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