superchunk said:
Kasz216 said:
Who says I haven't seen it? Nice assumption. You've got the order wrong. They can't move back until the violence stops. Not the other way around.
Who is going to move back and concentrate their population while they're being attacked? Not only does the violence hve to stop, but other nations have to stop threatining israel. |
Concentrate their population? WTF are you talking about. The part of Israeli population that is not already on "their" side of the '67 border is living in military outposts and illegal settlements. The later of which is also military outposts and has been condemned by everyone including the last few US Presidents. They total less than 500k people out of over 6m people. MOVE THEM!! All they need to do is follow international law. Is that so hard to understand. Laws says these people are living on land that they took illegally, they need to be relocated back to your lands. So do it. As for the other nations threating Israel. When Clinton was still president all of the Arab nations came together and drafted a full peace plan. In it they asked for '67 borders and right of return in exchange for full normal relationship with EVERY ARAB NATION. Israel declined. They didn't even offer anything else to continue the dialogue. In fact the only groups to denounce it were all the extreamest, Israel, Hamas, and I think Libya. No matter what happens there will always be groups that want Israel removed, see Hamas. But, that is not who they are even talking to. If they gave the PA the '67 borders and a real compensation and assitance to rebuild Palestine in exchange for the right of return the mass of the people would not support the extreamist. When was the last act of violence directed towards Israel that came from someone besides Hamas? Ever since the PA and Hamas formally split and Israel vacated Gaza, the only violence has been between Hamas and Israel. And that is usually a tit for tat situation. Israel fires open weapons civilian areas to hit a Hamas person. Usually killing few innocents. Hamas blindly shoots rockets into Israel. Usually doint property damage if that. Its been over a year since anything else, I could be wrong but I definitely cannot think of anything else. Guess what PA and Hamas are not friends. Give PA a viable state and funding, they will take care of Hamas to ensure they are kept in power. Not to mention if they have funding they could start to gain their populaces favor again as they would begin to do all of the social necessities like schools and hospitals that Hamas has been doing in Gaza and to a lesser extant in WB for years due to underground funding from supporters. | 
