Is there anything tax cuts CAN'T fix?

[vlad321]

mrstickball said:

Rath said:
MrStickball, just because America has failed to implement these ideas well does not mean that the ideas themselves are failures. As I pointed out many of the countries that have higher quality of life, have high standards of education and high standards of healthcare do have wide social programs and very high taxes. It's not like communism which hasn't been implemented well anywhere.

Ah, but you assume that success of socialized programs is a repudiation if the same said countries had a free-market system for the same social services or economies. Problem is, we do not know the answer to that in said European countries. Furthermore, we assume that said systems can sustain themselves indefinitely which may or may not be the case - given the volatility in Europe, one may wonder if said levels of social services will last the next 20, 30, or 40 years.

The issue with the argument is that its impossible to show that the European system is even optimal for European societies. One could look at examples of deregulation in very socialist European countries as proofs that there may be positive results in degrulation and freer markets. For example, the Dutch have arguably the most free job market in Europe and is cited to be generally as free as the United States. The result? One of the lowest rates of unemployment in Europe. Likewise, the lowest unemployment rate in Europe comes from the most economically free country in Europe - Switzerland. Take the time to look up economic freedom on Heritage's Index to see how European countries stack up. You'll be surprised.

You know, a free market has YET to be proven to work in the benefit of society as well, in more ways than just economically. Capitalism failed miserably over in the 80s (funny, around the time communism also started to fail, correlation?) , and lo' and behold, increasing the debt by 3 trillion got it out. This was under Reagan by the way, the greatest de-regualtor and all saved the US major downfall by spending huge amounts of money. After all, there is zero difference between building nukes and roads when it comes to the actual flow of money.

Furthermore I can write you a nice long paper about what a failure Americanism is. It is is as much failed Capitalism as Communism is failed Socialism. I very rarely see the best for cheapest prevail. I see the company that gets the best advertisements and spends the most money on psycholigist research prevail, even if their product is worse and costlier. As another example of business fuck ups, the nuclear reactor problem in Japan happened because of deregulation and bad business.

Basically, I agree that government is a piece of shit, however businesses are far lower than shit and that impresses me.