HappySqurriel said:
| Joelcool7 said:
Now as for the topic. Your wrong DS broke sales records not far out of the gate. Nintendogs and Mario64 both sold over a million shortly after launch. The hardware sold amazingly well. 3DS on the other hand has yet to have a game reach one million in sales, its hardware is sometimes at the very bottom of the charts. Nintendo is about to release some games but can the games really pick the 3DS up to where DS was shortly after its launch? The DS flew off shelves the first year or so of its release. I remember picking mine up for pre-order and a friend desperatly trying to find one in stock for himself because he didn't pre-order. Nintendo had huge success with the DS compared to 3DS.
3DS is currently bombing it is being beaten some weeks by the PSP. No the DS didn't do nearly as bad as 3DS at launch. The lack of marketing lack of fresh new IP targetting casuals or many other titles targetting casuals. The high price point, Nintendo set 3DS up to fail. If the new games coming this year don't boost 3DS sales back to DS levels then I think Nintendo will need to launch a massive ad campaign and cut the price of 3DS by 50$ to 199.99$. Then maybe 3DS will have a fighting chance.
With WiiU will Nintendo run into the same problem as 3DS? Possibly and if they do then they will need to fix the problems ASAP. Nintendo used to do such a great job in marketing and releasing software for casuals and hardcore. They are dropping the ball big time by neglecting the casuals and not marketing their products enough. I mean Reggie announced Nintendo was out sourcing marketing big mistake!
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First off, I don't know where you're getting your information from but the DS struggled initially in sales ... Certainly it sold much more rapidly than the 3DS has, but it was also released in the middle of a shopping orgy more commonly known as the Christmas shopping season; after Christmas the DS's sales tanked to a level below what we have seen with the 3DS and didn't recover until the spring when Nintendo released Brain Training and Nintendogs.
VGChartz Hardware data for the period 27th Mar 2005 to 18th Jun 2005:
| Console |
PSP |
DS |
GBA |
|
Total
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1,536,579
|
1,246,740
|
1,129,924
|
|
America
|
1,117,061
|
235,938
|
693,266
|
|
Japan
|
346,630
|
506,326
|
157,090
|
|
Total Others
|
72,888
|
504,476
|
279,568
|
VGChartz Hardware data for the period 27th Mar 2011 to 18th Jun 2011:
| Console |
3DS |
PSP |
DS |
|
Total
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1,819,518
|
1,225,273
|
1,478,708
|
|
America
|
968,614
|
239,097
|
736,492
|
|
Japan
|
330,564
|
478,953
|
151,098
|
|
Total Others
|
520,340
|
507,223
|
591,118
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Edit: added to the charts for clarity
Edit #2: Even if you claim that 600,000 of those 3DS was simply a launch based boost (far enough estimate) the 3DS is really not doing THAT poorly
Nintendo obviously could have handled the 3DS launch more smoothly, they should have had some big titles in the launch window, and they should be releasing some of their expanded market games before Christmas, but I still think people's fuzzy memories and failure to consider the 2004 holiday season are why people think the 3DS is doing so poorly compared to the DS.
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Nice to see those charts. I never looked up the charts I just know that for about a year DS's were next to impossible to find. I know because all my friends were jealous I had one. So seeing 3DS's at all the stores on the shelves gives the impression that it is not doing as well as DS did. Also I was going based on all the threads and the fact that VGChartz shows the PSP beating 3DS on some weeks and to be honest that is sort of scary.
But you can't deny what I was talking about, like Nintendo's poor marketing and the little support for casuals. I mean Nintendo used to be amazing with its ads they were all over, today I don't see them at all. Then casuals got Nintendogs + Cats but of all the announced titles which casual games are coming out this year?
3DS is not selling well enough for people not to worry. Nintendo could definatly use a boost and with some great software and the Christmas season only months away Nintendo could really cash in. All Nintendo needs is some good advertising one or two casual hits and the line-up already announced and these things could sell like gangbusters.
But I don't think Nintendo has done enough or taken this seriously. They need to market, they need the casuals and they need to show consumers why they should buy a 3DS over a Vita.
Then again the net is hyping Vita big time, but I have doubts that it can over take 3DS if Nintendo puts up a fight.
