The Official Halo Lore and Universe Thread

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BenVTrigger said:

hudsoniscool said:
Does anyone else think halo 4 should be delayed until 2013 and be on the next Xbox. Every main halo game has been 3 years apart so why change that now. Why would they put halo 4 on the 360(maybe there biggest game of gen) just to release a new console the next year, we don't need that many halo's in a gen and it will kill its sales.

Halo 4 should be the ultimate halo, but it wont be if they release it on the 360. Halo reach while good had so frame rate problems to say the least. It didn't have any large battles like halo 3( i can think of one mission that had a battle so big iv never seen anything like it since). Remember the 2 scarab mission, that was epic. Halo reach'es graphics were pushed up to much thats why i believe there was no big battles or any scarabs in game. 343 will presumably push halo 4 even further than reach was pushed so that will probably mean the battles will be even smaller than they were in reach.

lets say they release the new console in spring 2013(don't want to give wii u to much of head start). halo 4 in fall 2013 would give it a killer holiday. Or if in fall 2013 halo 4 would be a killer launch title. They need to let the hype build and that wont happen very well if they release halo 4 in 2012.

At the absolute earliest the Nextbox will release in Holiday 2013 that would give Halo 4 a full year on the market.  MS themselves have said more likely 2014 will be the launch so that would be 1 1/2 - 2 years on the market.  In other words I think Halo 4 launching on the 360 makes perfect sense.

In terms of your problems with Reach's framerate drops and stuff like that you have to remember that was Bungie's first time ever using that engine for a game so it wasn't properly optimized or anything yet.  Reach still had some huge battles but certainly not the size Halo 3 had.  I think you'll see a return of mega huge scale in Halo 4 however.  343 is using a HEAVYILY modified version of the Reach engine so expect a big boost in both performance as well as graphics.  And you have to remember while it will only be technically 2 years between main Halo installments the is the first time ever two studios have worked on Halo simoltaniously.  Frank O Conner already stated Halo 4 has been in development well over a year, that mean it will actually have over a 3 year development cycle, probably the longest in Halo history and plenty of time to work out any technical issues.  Trust me Halo is too important to MS they won't rush it.

So no I don't think they should wait on Halo 4 till the nextbox because I think your pushing up the next 360's launch too soon.  Its NOT going to come spring 2013 I can assure you that. 

How do you know fall 2013 is the absolute earliest. I dont ever recall MS saying when the next box would come out. They have said the 360 will have a 10 year cycle but thats irrelevent because we dont know how long they will keep the 360 in production after the new console launches could be 5 years  could be 0. 2011 will obviously be down year on year probably still down with a 50 dollar cut. They could see that its down(or going to be down) and then also not wanting the wii u to launch first and they could release in 2012. There is no reason why they  couldnt release the xbox 3 in 2012 or early 2013.

True halo 4 will have a longer dev time than all other halo's besides maybe halo 1, but there dev team is smaller than bungies, probably alot smaller. So even with 3-4 years dev time it will likely have less man hours put into it than halo 3, reach.

The only way it makes sense to me for the halo 4 on 360 is if the new console doesnt come until 2014 or later, but i dont believe they will wait until then to release their next console. I think it will be out fall 2012-fall 2013. You have to remember the xbox was having the best sales ever when they launched the 360 and the ps2 was selling great when they came out with the ps3. They launched early so they could have good market share and with the wii u coming out in 2012 they may want to do that again.